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Old 04-25-2007, 05:57 PM
gehrig gehrig is offline
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Default Re: 150/300 TP, coordinated board, vs neverwin

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if he donks flops with some regularity and with hands of differing strength then his hand is not face up.


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kurosh said he wanted to donk to make the hand easier to play because he'd gain lots of information

if neverwin thinks that kurosh is donking a large range than neverwin is playing back with a large range too. not much information is gained on either side.

btw i dont think donking is neccessarily a bad play, but "gaining information" is the downside to it. not having the flop checked thru and giving neverwin a chance to protect ur hand are the upsides.
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Old 04-25-2007, 06:11 PM
Victor Victor is offline
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Default Re: 150/300 TP, coordinated board, vs neverwin

"not having the flop checked thru and giving neverwin a chance to protect ur hand are the upsides. "

ya i agree with this.
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Old 04-25-2007, 06:54 PM
The Funky Llama The Funky Llama is offline
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Default Re: 150/300 TP, coordinated board, vs neverwin

when i play with neverwin he is pretty damn aggressive and would bet this flop with the vast majority of his range. Yea there might be a couple hands that he would check with but those are only a small percentage of his range. Giving a free card here really isn't even that tragic because your hand isn't that strong and there are few hands that would have folded the flop but will now improve to beat you. Getting neverwin to bet 66 on this flop is a coup.

Also it is rare that neverwin will help you protect your hand by raising your flop donk. Hes a good hand reader and probably won't raise without a hand that beats yours.

oh, and other than the flop donk i think u played the hand expertly ... reraising flop or raising turn would be big mistake imo
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