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Old 04-17-2007, 10:16 PM
dudeoflife dudeoflife is offline
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The best way to get in this through the 27 rebuy qualifier. If that's too much, build up W$ through playing the $5 rebuy qualifiers to the 160 doubleshootout then use that cash to play the 27 rebuy. The $5 rebuy qualifiers are extremely soft and I advise you play them every chance you get. I only do the 27 rebuy if there are 40 or more players which usually is during the weekend. As for the tourney, shove PF definitely makes life much easier and eliminates the need to make a tough decision on the flop. Like I said, I wasn't sure how this tourney would play out once we got in the pseudo money (650 for top 48). I could probably have sit out for 45 min if I had folded that hand and been within 1 or 2 of a seat. If anyone out there can tell me how it plays when it gets to that point it would be much appreciated.

What got me this far in the tourney was playing very tight solid poker. There's no reason to make plays you would in a regular mtt and raise in late posiiton with say a KJ or JQ to try to take the blinds since they go up so slow. I got all in maybe 4 hands through the tournament when i had AK, AA, KK, and KK. I'm going to try to play the 1 K this friday as the 650 is a grueling 8 hour tourney. What dissapointed about the last tourney is villain gave me an out to fold and I didn't. Had he checked I would've had to push and he would instacall and I would be less dissapointed with how I played the hand. Let the nightmares in my head begin....

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Old 04-17-2007, 10:24 PM
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wtf? who folds here? what would you need to call?
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:27 PM
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You made the correct play in my opinion so there's no point in regretting your decision.

Playing super tight is generally not the best way to get far in tournaments... see the anthology. If you aren't comfortable post flop then it is the best option though.
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:31 PM
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You made the correct play in my opinion so there's no point in regretting your decision.

Playing super tight is generally not the best way to get far in tournaments... see the anthology. If you aren't comfortable post flop then it is the best option though.

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it's a sat, not just a tourney.
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:42 PM
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I would need a set to call here but I wouldn't be raising wtih 33 or 77 but maybe 10 10. I've thought about this hand nonstop for the past day and realize that this hand is definitely a fold based on the BB's chipstack, the way he played the hand, and me being 29 out of 44 if I fold. Villain is simply not risking half of his chips without a set in this position. Maybe AK hearts but even then he wouldn't take the chance of losing half his stack when he knows he's probably going to get a call.

I agree with you that playing tight is not the way to go in most tourneys but this particular satellite it's acceptable. I changed strategies early on as my table was very aggressive and many pots were being contested so I chose to stay out of the way and let those donks try to outmanuever one each other. Pairdboard21, who's avatar looks like eric molina, was at my table and one of the chipleaders who absolutely self destructed in this process. To each his own.
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:49 PM
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You made the correct play in my opinion so there's no point in regretting your decision.

Playing super tight is generally not the best way to get far in tournaments... see the anthology. If you aren't comfortable post flop then it is the best option though.

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it's a sat, not just a tourney.

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So what? The beginning plays the same as a regular MTT and he said about the beginning: "What got me this far in the tourney was playing very tight solid poker. There's no reason to make plays you would in a regular mtt and raise in late posiiton with say a KJ or JQ to try to take the blinds since they go up so slow. "

I would disagree in that it's often correct to be stealing the blinds a lot in qualifiers
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:54 PM
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I would need a set to call here but I wouldn't be raising wtih 33 or 77 but maybe 10 10. I've thought about this hand nonstop for the past day and realize that this hand is definitely a fold based on the BB's chipstack, the way he played the hand, and me being 29 out of 44 if I fold. Villain is simply not risking half of his chips without a set in this position. Maybe AK hearts but even then he wouldn't take the chance of losing half his stack when he knows he's probably going to get a call.

I agree with you that playing tight is not the way to go in most tourneys but this particular satellite it's acceptable. I changed strategies early on as my table was very aggressive and many pots were being contested so I chose to stay out of the way and let those donks try to outmanuever one each other. Pairdboard21, who's avatar looks like eric molina, was at my table and one of the chipleaders who absolutely self destructed in this process. To each his own.

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You should be calling a lot looser than a set. I still contend that your call is good.

I've only played in this tourney once and it does go very slow. But if you watch the better players in this tournament they will be picking up a lot of blinds cheaply and stabbing at many pots. Precisely because people like you are giving up pots too easily like here where you think you need a set to call.
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Old 04-17-2007, 11:12 PM
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Ok, sorry I got off topic talking about strategy on what got me this far in the tourney. To the poster who asked me, pm me if you want more detail on playing these sats. To the hand in question, the circumstances are directly related to the fact that we are 9 from the bubble, and chip stack posiiton. To say people like me are giving pots too easily is incorrect as I'm only talking about laying down any hand but a set in this exact siutation. The only reason this hand is interesting is because the BB open pushes. If he checks, I push he calls and there's nothing I could've done differently. What's crucial for how this hand went down is the fact that he called my raise in about 5 seconds. If he had JJ, it takes I would argue at least 15 seconds to think should i just call/raise all in here. KK or AA I disregard because in my mind he's raising both of those. If bb has a stack of 30 k or so, it's an easy call. But with his stack there's no reason to get involved with anything less than a set.
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Old 04-17-2007, 11:22 PM
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Given that you got to the flop I think you have to fold. Even when you're ahead he's drawing too live to risk your tournament life here (lol it actually applies). But you really should just be open jamming preflop. You have a monster but you still don't want action.
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Old 04-17-2007, 11:28 PM
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I think you have to call and expect to be ahead. I'd be really surprised to see a set pushing there.
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