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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Easy call. Not close. [/ QUOTE ] it is close [/ QUOTE ] Realize that ICM doesn't come into the question in nearly the same way it did in your previous post. If you're not calling what you yourself say is quite possibly a resteal with AK, what _are_ you going to call with? QQ+ only? That's so exploitable it's not even funny. [/ QUOTE ] we all play to win. and I do realize it's not an ICM situation. Lets look at the reasons for folding: 1. If we fold and the big stack win, the table will break up and i presumably wont have a big stack to my left. this will be a huge advantage for me. (a point mentioned by sethypooh21) 2. at best case I'm 72% favorite , if my read is correct and he is doing it with any 2 (live cards) so I am only 63% favorite, at worse case I'm 45% underdog. (lets assume he is not doing it with KK or AA). 3. Although my main concerns is the big stack , there are 2 all-ins here. this means that I need a much better hand to call this because the short stack might be doing this with an A or a K taking one of my outs. 4. my stack size will be still very good after folding ( 5 in chips out of 18 or 19). now lets see the advantages of calling : 1. If we win we are becoming the big stack in the tournament.(first out of 19 or 18) with a good chance of winning 1-3. note that if I take only the side pot ,I will have only a slight edge over the second stack. this doesn't increase my chances of making 1-3 by a lot. the more I think of it , it looks like a sick fold to me. |
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#22
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call and be thankful of the opportunity.
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#23
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dedor and other morons in this thread you don't realize how big of a +cEV and +$EV spot this is and if you are passing this up then you might as well open fold and save yourself the 3bb. Honestly I am sure after reading your comments you guys are the many 2+2ers who are losing players and feeding mine and other better players bankrolls because you suck at tourneys about as much as it is humanly possibly
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#24
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I think you're in a coinflip about half of the time and your dominatind his hand the other half. I don't think he would ever do this with AA, and I would be surprised if he has KK also. What kind of better spot do you really think you're going to get in this tournament. if a $50 600 man tourney, the last 18 are going to know how to play.
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#25
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dedor and other morons in this thread you don't realize how big of a +cEV and +$EV spot this is and if you are passing this up then you might as well open fold and save yourself the 3bb. Honestly I am sure after reading your comments you guys are the many 2+2ers who are losing players and feeding mine and other better players bankrolls because you suck at tourneys about as much as it is humanly possibly [/ QUOTE ] Really, some of the posts here are sickeningly bad, I won't argue the point anymore. |
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#26
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dont fold
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#27
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It's unbelievable that people playing 55 freezeouts are so clueless.
Folding in this spot is just simply awful. It's the clearest call ever. |
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#28
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Depending on the read u have on villian, you say that he is tricky and can make this play with any2 ? Go for the 1st place and call!
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Depending on the read u have on villian [/ QUOTE ] No reasonable range makes this a fold. |
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#30
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I cant believe some people are saying fold. lol
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