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#21
04-13-2007, 05:09 PM
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Re: \"I WANT TO SEE THAT HAND\"
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] just as unethical as wanting to see a losing players hand when u werent in the hand at all [/ QUOTE ] THIS IS THE BIGGEST BUNCH OF BULL I'VE HEARD IN A LONG TIME!! Not gunna be leveled or hijacked. I really want an answer to this. Is it unethical for me to shove my cards deep into the muck? I'm paying my rake and playing at the table part of the game is information of how the other player are playing. If you have a problem with a player out of the hand requesting to see a hand then YOU should consider not playing. In Montana it's ALLOWED by LAW so it is ETHICAL. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Intent of seeing all hands is to prevent collusion, not allow you to gain information just b/c you pay rake. [/ QUOTE ] Then what do you get for paying rake? 
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#23
04-13-2007, 05:26 PM
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Re: \"I WANT TO SEE THAT HAND\"
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You could alway go to gagsngifts or a halloween store, buy a fake hand, keep it in your pocket, and when some douchebag asks to "see that hand," whip it out and show it to him. -J [/ QUOTE ] Is it proper etiquette to leave the middle finger extended?
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#24
04-13-2007, 05:32 PM
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Re: \"I WANT TO SEE THAT HAND\"
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] just as unethical as wanting to see a losing players hand when u werent in the hand at all [/ QUOTE ] THIS IS THE BIGGEST BUNCH OF BULL I'VE HEARD IN A LONG TIME!! Not gunna be leveled or hijacked. I really want an answer to this. Is it unethical for me to shove my cards deep into the muck? I'm paying my rake and playing at the table part of the game is information of how the other player are playing. If you have a problem with a player out of the hand requesting to see a hand then YOU should consider not playing. In Montana it's ALLOWED by LAW so it is ETHICAL. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Intent of seeing all hands is to prevent collusion, not allow you to gain information just b/c you pay rake. [/ QUOTE ] Then what do you get for paying rake? [/ QUOTE ] Tables, chairs, cards, chips, security and the infrastructure that brings people together to play the game we love. If you want to see MY hand, pay ME -- not the rake. If the law in Montana lets you see hands whenver you want and for whatever purpose you want, then Montana sucks.
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#25
04-13-2007, 05:45 PM
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Re: \"I WANT TO SEE THAT HAND\"
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] just as unethical as wanting to see a losing players hand when u werent in the hand at all [/ QUOTE ] THIS IS THE BIGGEST BUNCH OF BULL I'VE HEARD IN A LONG TIME!! Not gunna be leveled or hijacked. I really want an answer to this. Is it unethical for me to shove my cards deep into the muck? I'm paying my rake and playing at the table part of the game is information of how the other player are playing. If you have a problem with a player out of the hand requesting to see a hand then YOU should consider not playing. In Montana it's ALLOWED by LAW so it is ETHICAL. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Intent of seeing all hands is to prevent collusion, not allow you to gain information just b/c you pay rake. [/ QUOTE ] Try explaining that to the drunk guy, the deaf lady, the maniac who doesn't speak a lick of English and the two old nits you have "...been coming to this cardroom since you were in diapers." It just ain't worth it...
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#26
04-13-2007, 05:57 PM
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Re: \"I WANT TO SEE THAT HAND\"
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Before showdown, random player says "DEALER, I WANT TO SEE ALL HANDS." [/ QUOTE ] "FLOOR. SEAT CHANGE PLEASE...or a baseball bat, whichever's easier.
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#27
04-13-2007, 06:00 PM
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Re: \"I WANT TO SEE THAT HAND\"
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However, on page 54 of "Hayduke's Comprehensive, Authoritative, Unimpeachable, Rules of Poker" it is clearly stated that before tabling the mucked hand, the dealer should require the requesting player to explain exactly what it is that has caused him to suspect the other players of collusion. [/ QUOTE ] I really like that.
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#28
04-13-2007, 06:12 PM
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Re: \"I WANT TO SEE THAT HAND\"
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[ QUOTE ] However, on page 54 of "Hayduke's Comprehensive, Authoritative, Unimpeachable, Rules of Poker" it is clearly stated that before tabling the mucked hand, the dealer should require the requesting player to explain exactly what it is that has caused him to suspect the other players of collusion. [/ QUOTE ] I really like that. [/ QUOTE ] It does throw a Monkey Wrench into the IWTSTHer's plans.
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#29
04-13-2007, 06:12 PM
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Re: \"I WANT TO SEE THAT HAND\"
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Before showdown, random player says "DEALER, I WANT TO SEE ALL HANDS." Winning player shows hand. Loser throws hand into the muck. Is dealer supposed to show the table the hand? [/ QUOTE ] In most cardrooms, I would say yes. If the same random player did it again, I would say WTF? If someone did that to me, we would have a discussion about it, me, the player, the dealer, the floor and any other higher level casino employee if need be.
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#30
04-13-2007, 06:18 PM
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Re: \"I WANT TO SEE THAT HAND\"
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Before showdown, random player says "DEALER, I WANT TO SEE ALL HANDS." Winning player shows hand. Loser throws hand into the muck. Is dealer supposed to show the table the hand? [/ QUOTE ] How a good dealer handles the situation: (after the hand is stuck in the muck and throughly mixed) What? Huh? Oh, you wanted to see the hand? I'm sorry, I didn't hear you, I am kind of hard of hearing in my left ear. Sorry. Why did you want to see the hand anyways? Do you think someone is cheating? Sorry, I did not hear your request -- post your blind please.
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