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04-05-2007, 02:53 PM
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Re: K3-SB against BB + Limper
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Bet/bet/bet line with TPNK = total value. There, I fyp. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Wow. Can't wait to get a big hand against you. [/ QUOTE ] I think what you may be forgetting is that we're up against BB here... who could have a random hand. Against someone with a read, or a position other than BB, where we could assign some sort of range you may very well be right that betting down TPNK is spew. But betting river with top pair in blind vs. blind where nobody has done any raising is pretty standard. 
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#22
04-05-2007, 03:16 PM
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Re: K3-SB against BB + Limper
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Bet/bet/bet line with TPNK = total value. There, I fyp. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Wow. Can't wait to get a big hand against you. [/ QUOTE ] HU FOR ROLLZ
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#23
04-05-2007, 03:49 PM
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Re: K3-SB against BB + Limper
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Bet/bet/bet line with TPNK = total value. There, I fyp. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Wow. Can't wait to get a big hand against you. [/ QUOTE ] Let's say you have a monster hand: 55 What will you do when I bet?
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#24
04-05-2007, 04:02 PM
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Re: K3-SB against BB + Limper
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Bet/bet/bet line with TPNK = total value. There, I fyp. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Wow. Can't wait to get a big hand against you. [/ QUOTE ] And what's the alternative? Checking the flop with top freakin' pair with no evidence supporting that we might be beat? Checking the turn and allowing BB to take a free card if he needs it? Checking the river when it's more likely that BB has a lower pair than not? Top pair versus BB's two worse-than-random cards is a GOOD THING. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, check the turn. Which free cards are we afraid of giving away? And why does everybody assume BB is so crappy that he calls 2 streets, probably 3, with worse than top pair?
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#25
04-05-2007, 04:19 PM
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Re: K3-SB against BB + Limper
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Yeah, check the turn. Which free cards are we afraid of giving away? And why does everybody assume BB is so crappy that he calls 2 streets, probably 3, with worse than top pair? [/ QUOTE ] You've never seen A6 call down? Or 88 that doesn't like to raise preflop? Yes, reads matter here. If BB is a nit, you can check-fold the turn. But repeatedly failing to get value out your top pair hands in small pots is a leak that gets bigger as you try to move up. Edit: If you find a player willing to fold top pair, go LAGtastic on him and profit.
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#26
04-05-2007, 04:37 PM
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Re: K3-SB against BB + Limper
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Yeah, check the turn. Which free cards are we afraid of giving away? And why does everybody assume BB is so crappy that he calls 2 streets, probably 3, with worse than top pair? [/ QUOTE ] How about a 3,4,7,8, any heart (although unlikely)? What happens when he checks behind and one of these scare cards hits? Do you check again? What if he bets the turn? Do you fold? If you are not willing to bet when you hit top pair in this situation, then you MUST fold pre-flop (I know this is not your hand, but you said nothing about PF play, so I assume that you think it is fine).
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#27
04-05-2007, 04:40 PM
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Re: K3-SB against BB + Limper
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Bet/bet/bet line with TPNK = total value. There, I fyp. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Wow. Can't wait to get a big hand against you. [/ QUOTE ] And what's the alternative? Checking the flop with top freakin' pair with no evidence supporting that we might be beat? Checking the turn and allowing BB to take a free card if he needs it? Checking the river when it's more likely that BB has a lower pair than not? Top pair versus BB's two worse-than-random cards is a GOOD THING. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, check the turn. Which free cards are we afraid of giving away? And why does everybody assume BB is so crappy that he calls 2 streets, probably 3, with worse than top pair? [/ QUOTE ] i call down with any 6/5/PP/straight draw.
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