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Old 04-03-2007, 01:55 PM
johnnyrocket johnnyrocket is offline
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Default Re: KQ Valuetown?

you are being very results oriented here, what is your sn? i would love to sit with you.
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Old 04-03-2007, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: KQ Valuetown?

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i guess i might just be results oriented with thinking i play good, as villain had KhTh here and MHWG.

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Wow. How can you think you played the hand well if he looked you up with KThh here? Doesn't that make your turn raise like, really bad?

As is the river plays itself and you have to bet. But basically you sucked out and won.

His river call sucks too. Time to adjust your read.
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Old 04-03-2007, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: KQ Valuetown?

what i was trying to say is had the turn been a 9 and he didn't outdraw, my turn raise would have been expert.

i guess i shouldn't stand so strong in these thin spots though.
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Old 04-03-2007, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: KQ Valuetown?

you would have raised a 9 turn? I thought you raised the turn because it was a ten. Raising a 9 puts you in a spot where you are putting in bets while drawing dead.

We also don't know if he bets that turn (9). Given he did fire 2 streets when he made 2nd pair we do know this guy is aggro and it's going to be expensive to bluff him but profitable to value bet and raise on big streets. So I think this approach is really bad in this spot vs. this player.
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Old 04-03-2007, 07:02 PM
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Default Re: KQ Valuetown?

What is your Went to SD number 55%? This is a play I would only make if I felt I was getting run over and since he called your turn check-raise how can you expect to not be shown an ace here? This whole hand makes me want to puke.
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Old 04-03-2007, 07:13 PM
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yeah i tought you raised that Turn becuase of it was a T..why would we raise a 9? I think you need a better read to pull this off. I guess you had none, so this play seems very spewy for me...if i would have been BB id would have had you beat for sure unless id have JJ.

This board is really so ugly for you after you get 3bet from the BB
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Old 04-03-2007, 08:52 PM
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this got me htinking that i really call down too much. my went to SD% is about 40 for 6max how bad is that and what should it be at?
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Old 04-03-2007, 09:01 PM
TheWunderkind TheWunderkind is offline
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yeah that really is too much and maybe you found a big leak in your game to fix, im pretty sure though

this is from mr wookies 6 max stats FAQ

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Went to showdown: Marginal hands will tend to have more value when there are fewer players involved. Expect to show down more hands. A value of about 32 is probably about as low as is reasonable, and 40%-ish is about the ceiling. Typical values are 35-38%. As you add hands, this may decrease slightly, but if you're only adding hands that you end up folding before showdown, it's time to rethink about adding those hands. Also, if you play aggressively enough (and/or against tight enough opponents) that many hands don't make it to showdown, this will tend to decrease.


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Old 04-03-2007, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: KQ Valuetown?

Mine is like 40 too, its not so bad but this is still a bad spot.

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Old 04-03-2007, 09:40 PM
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the 4 biggest winners in my games go to sd 48% of the time.
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