Starting Over - I need some advice

[jively]

I know it's important to learn 6-max. However, my suggestion to ItalianFX would be: if you are not sure you are a winning player in general, play $0.50/1 full for awhile. Play at least 10,000 hands. Your guide is SSHE, and you can follow it fully. Don't worry about blind steals or defense. Work on the post-flop skills. That's where you can work on counting the outs and the pot odds, and protecting your hands, and the really important small-stakes hold'em skills.

If you are winning there, then come back to 6-max. The game will still be there, and you can work on the pre-flop nuances, and being heads up with marginal hands. Counting outs when you have middle pair on the flop in 6-max is funny because you may have the best hand. Make sure you really know the basics by playing full tables.

Just my alternate .02.

-Tom

[jba]

Tom,

good point. Italian how much full ring experience do you hvae?

[milesdyson]

all,

i am sorry for my bad advice in this thread.

i like tom's suggestion the best. 0.5/1 full ring is probably the best place to learn the fundamentals of postflop play. get a preflop chart, see some flops, and value bet until you die.

[ItalianFX]

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Out of curiosity, what is your Went to Showdown % in poker tracker?

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40.83% on 8996 hands and won 51.24%.

[SomethingClever]

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Out of curiosity, what is your Went to Showdown % in poker tracker?

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40.83% on 8996 hands and won 51.24%.

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Whaaaaaa?

All I ever see is you folding or recommending a fold. How can this be?

[ItalianFX]

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Tom,

good point. Italian how much full ring experience do you hvae?

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I'm not exactly sure on the number, but I would say I'm around 4500ish hands played. Fullring was the only thing I played until I was introduced to 6max by a 2+2er. I have been going back and forth, but fullring seems too boring for me on my computer. I can play fullring all night at a casino though.

[ItalianFX]

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Out of curiosity, what is your Went to Showdown % in poker tracker?

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40.83% on 8996 hands and won 51.24%.

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Whaaaaaa?

All I ever see is you folding or recommending a fold. How can this be?

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I have to disagree. It's not rare, but you can't say that is all you ever see.

[milesdyson]

the point is that a wtsd of 40% is very high. who knows what extra hands you're taking to showdown, but this is almost certainly one of your problems.

but if i've read correctly you've played less than 15k hands of online poker, right? if so, i really really like the idea of playing 0.5/1 full for 10k or so hands, and while there, post any hands you feel are hard/interesting in the microlimit forum.

you're basically starting out in 6-max. the need for selective postflop aggression in this game is a bit difficult to grasp. full ring will teach you the fundamentals in a much more forgiving environment.

[ItalianFX]

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i really really like the idea of playing 0.5/1 full for 10k or so hands, and while there, post any hands you feel are hard/interesting in the microlimit forum.

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I want to clear my Empire bonus on 6max playing tight/conservative and then I'm going to move to party and take that advice on fullring.

Overall I'm at around 9000 hands played on all levels.

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work on your preflop play mainly at first. go on a mission to figure out why your vpip is 18 and around here 25 is the norm.

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No! No! No! This is very bad advice.


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This isn't bad advice for short-handed.