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Old 03-20-2007, 12:53 PM
thedustbustr thedustbustr is offline
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Default Re: KK with Not One, but TWO Aces on the Flop! *Play along*!

what the [censored] bet the flop for value every single time

22-KK calls
a six calls
flush draws call
king high sometimes calls


...and an ace calls
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Old 03-20-2007, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: KK with Not One, but TWO Aces on the Flop! *Play along*!

Id raise here to find out for sure...its almost like hes trying too hard to play it like an ace...hes figuring you wouldnt have led out with one and are making a normal cbet...most of the time your hand is good here...raise to where it seems your pretty much pot committed then if he comes over the top you know your beat
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Old 03-20-2007, 01:00 PM
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Default Re: KK with Not One, but TWO Aces on the Flop! *Play along*!

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Id raise here to find out for sure...its almost like hes trying too hard to play it like an ace...hes figuring you wouldnt have led out with one and are making a normal cbet...most of the time your hand is good here...raise to where it seems your pretty much pot committed then if he comes over the top you know your beat

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Raising here is terrible.
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Old 03-20-2007, 01:03 PM
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Default Re: KK with Not One, but TWO Aces on the Flop! *Play along*!

its better then calling...if you call hes taking you off it on turn pretty much every time...if you think he has the ace then fold...if you dont then put him to the test
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Old 03-20-2007, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: KK with Not One, but TWO Aces on the Flop! *Play along*!

You want him to fold worse hands like lower pairs?
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Old 03-20-2007, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: KK with Not One, but TWO Aces on the Flop! *Play along*!

call, c/c most bets on the turn.
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Old 03-20-2007, 01:09 PM
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Default Re: KK with Not One, but TWO Aces on the Flop! *Play along*!

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what the [censored] bet the flop for value every single time

22-KK calls
a six calls
flush draws call
king high sometimes calls


...and an ace calls

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Well, once again..how many streets of value will you get if you take this approach? Does this defer much from the passive c/c approach? How many streets do you plan to valuebet? How do we react to a flopraise + turnbet? How do we deal with the increased potsize when we call the raise?

I'm trying to see the beeting side of things but above questions makes me think a passive approach is better. We can v-bet our hand on the river aswell, and we might even get more hand to call. We also have two pair protection. We are only afraid that they spike their 2-outer with 2 cards to come.
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