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Old 03-08-2007, 08:11 PM
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Default Re: $15-$30 hand from the Bellagio..anyone play it differently?

Given that 4-betting isn't a cap, I like it much better, but I've never played in Vegas so I don't know what 4-bets are usually taken for.
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Old 03-08-2007, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: $15-$30 hand from the Bellagio..anyone play it differently?

Given how you played it I wouldn't 3bet the flop. Seems like an easy turn checkraise.

Thats why I posted that I had a "premature ejaculation" [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 03-08-2007, 08:39 PM
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Default Re: $15-$30 hand from the Bellagio..anyone play it differently?

Given that 4-betting isn't a cap, I like it much better, but I've never played in Vegas so I don't know what 4-bets are usually taken for.

Considering how tight I play, most players who have played with me know that chances are I hold Aces or Kings.
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Old 03-08-2007, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: $15-$30 hand from the Bellagio..anyone play it differently?

Even so, I think not 4-betting gives up a lot, especially if UTG+1 might 5-bet.

In that case, I think a "premature ejactulation" would be warrented and would just become an ejactulation.
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Old 03-08-2007, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: $15-$30 hand from the Bellagio..anyone play it differently?

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Old 03-08-2007, 09:20 PM
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Default Re: $15-$30 hand from the Bellagio..anyone play it differently?

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Given that 4-betting isn't a cap, I like it much better, but I've never played in Vegas so I don't know what 4-bets are usually taken for.

Considering how tight I play, most players who have played with me know that chances are I hold Aces or Kings.

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well then it might be to your advantage to loosen up pf in spot or two. it's not like opponents need to see you 4 betting 45s or something. just raise or 3bet a bit more and when you do 4 bet or 5 bet, it doesn't put them "on guard" so quickly because they've seen you up the stakes in pf situations before.
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Old 03-08-2007, 09:32 PM
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Default Re: $15-$30 hand from the Bellagio..anyone play it differently?

well then it might be to your advantage to loosen up pf in spot or two. it's not like opponents need to see you 4 betting 45s or something. just raise or 3bet a bit more and when you do 4 bet or 5 bet, it doesn't put them "on guard" so quickly because they've seen you up the stakes in pf situations before.

Something I continually attempt to work towards.
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Old 03-08-2007, 09:46 PM
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" More like three."

ok, so im not trippin and ive read this hand before or no?

also, since the first 3 posters were u, clark, and joet, i thought i was an intern back in a cublicle happy to read the lastest new post. i remember when you could read every post for the week before lunch, back before registration.
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Old 03-08-2007, 10:53 PM
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Victor,

You have not read this post before. It has been about 3 years since I have had anything to post in this forum.
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Old 03-08-2007, 10:54 PM
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Default Re: $15-$30 hand from the Bellagio..anyone play it differently?

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Given that 4-betting isn't a cap, I like it much better, but I've never played in Vegas so I don't know what 4-bets are usually taken for.

Considering how tight I play, most players who have played with me know that chances are I hold Aces or Kings.

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well then it might be to your advantage to loosen up pf in spot or two. it's not like opponents need to see you 4 betting 45s or something. just raise or 3bet a bit more and when you do 4 bet or 5 bet, it doesn't put them "on guard" so quickly because they've seen you up the stakes in pf situations before.

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A little off topic but this brings up a good point. I don't have to 4bet a lot to get no respect for my 4bets. In other words, I do so much 3 betting, that when I 4 bet no one puts me on a tight range, even though that's exactly what I have.

So basically I don't think you ever have to loosen up your 4 betting range to get action with your big hands, just your 3 betting range, and even just your open raising range.
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