Help me understand OOT ( Warning boring Global warming issues ) NSFW

[jws43yale]

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We will NEVER-NEVER-EVER run out of oil.
We may run out of CHEAP oil but as long as their is a demand for oil, there will ALWAYS be oil.

[/ QUOTE ]How can a finite mass be also infinite?

Are you drunk?

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It is a relative answer. It is not infinite, but we will never use it up due to the fact that the scarcer it gets, the higher the price. If there were only 100 barrels left in the world, the price would be so high no-one could afford to actualy use it.

[51cards]

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We will NEVER-NEVER-EVER run out of oil.
We may run out of CHEAP oil but as long as their is a demand for oil, there will ALWAYS be oil.

[/ QUOTE ]How can a finite mass be also infinite?

Are you drunk?

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It is a relative answer. It is not infinite, but we will never use it up due to the fact that the scarcer it gets, the higher the price. If there were only 100 barrels left in the world, the price would be so high no-one could afford to actualy use it.

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Whew, that's good. I thought we were going to run out there for a minute.

[Phil153]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_oil is a great place to start.

Expert opinion is that oil production has peaked or will peak in a few years. This will be very bad for developed economies if nothing is done, and nothing is being done.

I don't agree with the Doomsday scenarios some follow but make no mistake, oil production will peak soon and then go into decline, and fairly bad economic effects will be felt around the world.

[almostbusto]

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They should confiscate the profits of big oil, and force them to do research to stop global warming, and finding alternate energy sources.

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finally a rational solution, theft and slavery fix everything

[ChrisV]

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1st: You can take coal and add hydrogen to make oil. This technology was developed by Germany during WW2 and SASOL of South Africa uses this method to make oil.

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Where do you get the hydrogen from?

[ChrisV]

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http://junkscience.com/ gives you a lot of ammo to fight GW hysteria.

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I actually mentioned that site.. and she goes, "Now you're gonna believe something you read on a site called "Junkscience" She also told me to check out this article in National Geographic
I read both, I hate the fact that the whole GW issue has become a BIG useless debate.

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Junkscience is a worthless site. Steven Milloy, who runs the site, is a politically motivated and paid lobbyist. See here for more on Milloy.

[Borodog]

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All government employees, including scientists, are all politically motivated and paid lobbyists.

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[AvivaSimplex]

If only there were a forum dedicated to idiots shouting their talking points at each other...

[Mickey Brausch]

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[Petroleum] is not infinite, but we will never use it up due to the fact that the scarcer it gets, the higher the price. If there were only 100 barrels left in the world, the price would be so high no-one could afford to actualy use it.

[/ QUOTE ]In the run-up to petroleum getting so scarce as to be approaching a total of 100 barrels, do you suppose that people will continue to use it up at its obviously rapidly rising price -- or that people will be forced early enough in the climb to look elsewhere?

It just might be that those 100 barrels of oil will be indeed priced highly enough, although not as a scarce natural resource but as a precious relic; something like the price for the only extant remains of a complete brontosaurus.

In the oil business, a petroleum product in an installation is said to be "No Longer Available" NOT when it reaches zero tons, but when it drops at the "Unpumpable" level. In so many words, oil <u>is</u> finite, whether that means (a) it's no longer in pumpable quantities, (b) it's too expensive, or (c) the physical reservoirs have been completely emptied.

But let's not digress. For the persistent efforts of Felix, and the other hyper-mathematicians in this thread, I wanna thank 'em all for giving us a real life example of an infinite quantity; I'll let you figure out what that was.

Mickey Brausch

[ChrisV]

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All government employees, including scientists, are all politically motivated and paid lobbyists.

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Don't be deliberately obtuse. There are endless examples of obvious bias in Milloy's work and that, not just who he receives money from, is what causes me to label him a lobbyist.