Another hand vs Rekwob (Full tilt $75 6 handed)

[JoeKing]

Do you guys think this is a good spot to try to get a free card? I think i would raise the flop to 1800-2000 and if he calls/checks turn i would check behind. As played, i think i fold the turn to that bet.

[Exitonly]

if we're raise-calling w/ K high; we should probably think about just shoving

[registrar]

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if we're raise-calling w/ K high; we should probably think about just shoving

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This is what I'd do and I've been waiting for someone to patiently explain why it is wrong, except for the fact that raising substantially probably generates more FE than an open push. But I think that's compensated by the fact that we fold out worse draws that beat us at showdown unimproved.

[Eagles]

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Raise the flop all day and call a shove.

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Absolutely when he donks he makes the hand so easy to play. I seriously can't believe you called his flop bet.

[elliot]

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call, and shove any turn card if he checks.

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You want to bet ~5k into a ~2.5k pot?

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abso-[censored]-lutely

a turn check on his part would be so insanely weak, it is begging us to shove here, and besides, we will be almost guaranteed to get all our chips in if a king hits the river anyway, i really dont see much difference between shoving and potting the turn as if we are drawing to "only" 12 outs, the end result is exactly the same (we lose half our stack when we miss or a king hits and he was already ahead of us, except if we dont get the chips in before the river we may not get paid on the river)

[Rekwob]

question is whether you shove, which has much more folding equity and might get me off second pair, or you raise, because im shoving any pair/draw that i donk bet with and it only gets me off total air