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Old 02-20-2007, 03:42 PM
swingdoc swingdoc is offline
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Similar problem for me going from 16s to 27s recently. I moved down and suddenly I got better. It's not the games it's my attitude towards them.

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Nothing worse for my game than when I'm afraid to lose. Drop back down to the 27s and start slowly adding 60's in. For the life of me I don't understand this forum's habit of classifying players as this level or that or of strictly adhering to 1 level when you play. I love to play 24 turbos on FT but also regularly play 12's, 36's and will even play 60's from time to time. There's nothing wrong with playing multiple levels at once; I actually think it's quite good psychologically.
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Old 02-20-2007, 03:51 PM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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YOU'RE THE GREATEST OMG EVERYONE ON THIS FORUM WANTS TO HAVE SWEATY MAN SEX WITH YOU!!!

If that doesn't work I dno what will [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img].

Yugoslav

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Damn Yugo, keep your dreams to yourself...lol...

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Ok, that doesn't make you want to jump out of bed in the morning and pwn? Maybe THIS WILL!



Yugoslav
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Old 02-20-2007, 03:54 PM
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Yugo,

More confidence boosting please, thanks.
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Old 02-20-2007, 04:06 PM
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Thanks Yugo....that actually did inspire me a little bit.
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Old 02-20-2007, 04:07 PM
Mike MacIntosh Mike MacIntosh is offline
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Hey...how did you get her out of my dreams and onto this forum?
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Old 02-20-2007, 04:29 PM
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Hercules,

I played about 1,500 27s to build my roll. I went on a 500 buy-in break even stretch during this sample.

I am down 20 BI over 200 gms in the last week since moving up (not 2k). Maybe my OP was difficult to understand. I stated that I did not want to lose 2k at the 60s before moving back down.

My early game is solid, it is my pushing game that I come to second guess. I have been told by some that I play too tight early, and too crazy in the late game.

I do agree that most of this is in my head, and in the cards.

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Reading that, i guess it would be right to play the 27s again, since you killed them and mistakes don`t cost that much. Ok, if you`re unsure about some pushbotting, you know what to do
Just hang up yugo`s pic and think about something else [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
I lost yesterday like 5 Buy-ins in NL 200, i`m on a break for the next 2 days...
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Old 02-20-2007, 04:55 PM
Mike MacIntosh Mike MacIntosh is offline
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Hercules,

I played about 1,500 27s to build my roll. I went on a 500 buy-in break even stretch during this sample.

I am down 20 BI over 200 gms in the last week since moving up (not 2k). Maybe my OP was difficult to understand. I stated that I did not want to lose 2k at the 60s before moving back down.

My early game is solid, it is my pushing game that I come to second guess. I have been told by some that I play too tight early, and too crazy in the late game.

I do agree that most of this is in my head, and in the cards.

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Reading that, i guess it would be right to play the 27s again, since you killed them and mistakes don`t cost that much. Ok, if you`re unsure about some pushbotting, you know what to do
Just hang up yugo`s pic and think about something else [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
I lost yesterday like 5 Buy-ins in NL 200, i`m on a break for the next 2 days...

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Cash is brutal. I played a little 200 NL and ran my AK into AA. It was a great way to go from 235 to 100 in one hand. I went on life tilt after that...lol..
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Old 02-20-2007, 06:34 PM
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Now I feel angry and frustrated, when a bad beat hits, I lose a race for the 3rd time in a session, and I lose 8 bi over 10 games. I doubt myself, at every given opportunity. Worst of all, I stop having fun, which is the reason why I started playing this game in the first place.


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This stuck out the most to me. I know when we talk, you tell me that your biggest enemy is yourself. I read everything, but I know this is part of it. I can see some of it because I know you IRL, but a lot of it comes out clearly in this thread.

You obviously have the poker capacity to win at any level. Its just a matter of balancing that with the mental part of it all. I can speak for you personally seeing the satisfaction of a friend succeeding and moving up.

Here is my two cents. You initially played at the lower levels for a good duration of time. You understood what it took to run over those levels, and you did it. There's no doubt that when you moved up you could succeed at the next level. You were already ready for it, you just didn't have the BR for it yet. You finally moved up and it didn't take long before you were winning on a regular basis at that level either. I think that level and this level is where there is a big gap in the thinking/level of play. You are frustrated because you aren't accelerating up the ladder as quickly as you were previously. This is just not sustainable to expect to jump up at every level and dominate within such a short time span. You just need to take it to another level.

I think the issue at hand is how fast you have accelerated from your prior level up to the 60's. There's no doubt you have what it takes to be a winning player at this level. I think with this level it will take more time and efforts. You are frustrated right now because of how well you ran at the other levels. Sure, you struggled from time to time, but you still had moderate success even when you were down at times.

My advice is there is no shame in moving down or taking time out temporarily. You need to have your mental game be as confident as your actual poker in order to succeed and concentrate to your full potential. Its just part of the roadblocks you must overcome along the way.
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Old 02-20-2007, 07:25 PM
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Play 2 60s and 3 27s or a combination like that. Even if you start out running like [censored] at the higher level, playing your normal buy-in should help cushion the swings while you build familiarity/confidence at the new level.
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Old 02-20-2007, 08:30 PM
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you are analyzing it way too much.

you prob are just getting luck douched + tilting a bit.

i find it hard to believe that after 1500 27s you haven't had at least one or two stretches where you can't win a donkngo to save your life.

the 60s seem a little harder b/c you have less and less complete retards, but there are still plenty of people who aren't very good to win at these with your exact same game as at the 27s
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