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Old 02-20-2007, 03:22 PM
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Are you sure he will call you with a lower flush on the river?

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I'm not sure, no. But I haven't seen him fold a river in 2 hours.
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Old 02-20-2007, 04:19 PM
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i'd fold preflop. i'm surprised nobody said anything yet, so i guess i will. your relative position sucks and there is still some possibility that there will be a 3-bet behind you. being first to act after the raiser is not good for drawing hands or even if you flop the world it will be hard to maximize value. your position is only good for protecting pairs and protecting a pair of 6's or a dominted ace doesn't sound too appealing. Axs is a 1 seat or 9 seat hand, not a 5 or 6 seat hand.

i don't like your flop pump. its certainly not for value 3 ways on a paired board, and with you holding the nutterball draw its less likely your villain is pumping a draw himself which means he likely has a Q or 5, which means you are going to have to hit to win usually.

turn and river are standard obv.
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Old 02-20-2007, 04:23 PM
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I'd fold preflop. i'm surprised nobody said anything yet, so i guess i will.

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I agree, but I thought PJ covered that in his OP - he was playing rather loose. Its not a horrible call considering the scenario (I've seen you call a lot worse) but its not something I would do because the hero isn't closing the action and will most likely not be acting last.

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Old 02-20-2007, 04:25 PM
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nh aside from flop 3-bet.
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Old 02-20-2007, 04:43 PM
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i'd fold preflop. i'm surprised nobody said anything yet, so i guess i will. your relative position sucks and there is still some possibility that there will be a 3-bet behind you. being first to act after the raiser is not good for drawing hands or even if you flop the world it will be hard to maximize value. your position is only good for protecting pairs and protecting a pair of 6's or a dominted ace doesn't sound too appealing. Axs is a 1 seat or 9 seat hand, not a 5 or 6 seat hand.

i don't like your flop pump. its certainly not for value 3 ways on a paired board, and with you holding the nutterball draw its less likely your villain is pumping a draw himself which means he likely has a Q or 5, which means you are going to have to hit to win usually.

turn and river are standard obv.

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Agreed, not sure river is standard, but it probably should be.
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Old 02-20-2007, 04:49 PM
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Its not a horrible call considering the scenario (I've seen you call a lot worse)

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first of all, i don't know if you know, but i play EXPERT limit holdem postflop. that is probably something that a NONEXPERT like you wouldn't understand.

second of all, well, actually that was my only point. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 02-20-2007, 05:04 PM
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Its not a horrible call considering the scenario (I've seen you call a lot worse)

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first of all, i don't know if you know, but i play EXPERT limit holdem postflop. that is probably something that a NONEXPERT like you wouldn't understand.

second of all, well, actually that was my only point. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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I guess that explains calling 2 bets cold on the button and drawing 4 cards. I have to admit you got there, expert post-"flop" play [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].

Hope all is well...

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Old 02-26-2007, 06:55 PM
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Results, for those of you who care:

He called with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and MHIG send it.
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