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Old 01-31-2007, 05:18 PM
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You left out Tim McVeigh.

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I don't think he really claimed to be much of a Christian -- and certainly he's nothing like the Army of God types who blow up abortion clinics in the name of Christ, nor was he ever tied to extremist Christian movements ala Eric Rudolph.
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Old 01-31-2007, 05:35 PM
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As soon as they start banning internet activity and arresting innocent businessmen I'll be a bit more concerned about them.

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FYP. I'm concerned.

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I never claimed they are not harmful. But so are lots of groups. The fact that you are comparing the "ban" of online poker to a nuclear bomb going off just shows how off base you are. They both are threats. They are just threats in different areas and different degrees.
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Old 01-31-2007, 06:04 PM
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I just watched that doc the other night. The scene where they're teaching 8 year olds to combat evolution was interesting.

The whole doc made me very sad.

I get the impression that the moderates (on the SMP forum) don't realize the beliefs of the Evangelicals nor how organized they are to reshape America in their beliefs.

Scary and sad.
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Old 01-31-2007, 06:13 PM
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I was a member of the Christian Right - now a member of the Christian left -

all must be taken with a grain of salt, people -

yes, they teach their kids that the world is 6K yrs old -and yes, they believe seperation of Church and State is a satanic doctrine -

but the most dangerous mass movement in history - no - and furthermore, all attempts to squash it are futile and wasted - no one gives up.

Truth is, there is a serious sickness in the American Christian Church. They serve both God and Money when Jesus specifically prohibited such things - as a result, what's in America looks more like the old days -

but the Church as a whole is thriving in places like China and Nepal where it's operating under full oppression -

you can't take away grace from people and you can't even try - the easiest way to handle them is to gently and calmly remove their leaders from power via elections - then they'll just sit and sulk for awhile - maybe then they'll get back to helping the poor, being a blessing instead of a judge, etc, etc.

And when I hear of all these kids they're having, raising up as soldiers, etc, etc - well - take that with a grain of salt too - I was once targeted to be one of the soldiers - and I abandoned my post - many of this generation's youth will too, more enamoured by the calling of Jesus then the orders/dictates of the old line leadership in the church.

besides, the most dangerous mass movement in history is American Idol. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Old 01-31-2007, 06:25 PM
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demagogues...who plot the destruction of the democratic state

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They don't sound so bad to me! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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BA-ZING! So you'd be a big supporter of Hitler by this logic, right? Not only did he plot the destruction his democratic state, he followed through.

I love how acers are almost universally incapable of distinguishing the relative merits of different incarnations of the state. When you fail to acknowledge any difference between a representative democracy and a religious dictatorship you show everyone what you really are: fringe utopians, idealists.
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Old 01-31-2007, 10:03 PM
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I was a member of the Christian Right - now a member of the Christian left -

all must be taken with a grain of salt, people -

yes, they teach their kids that the world is 6K yrs old -and yes, they believe seperation of Church and State is a satanic doctrine -

but the most dangerous mass movement in history - no - and furthermore, all attempts to squash it are futile and wasted - no one gives up.

Truth is, there is a serious sickness in the American Christian Church. They serve both God and Money when Jesus specifically prohibited such things - as a result, what's in America looks more like the old days -

but the Church as a whole is thriving in places like China and Nepal where it's operating under full oppression -

you can't take away grace from people and you can't even try - the easiest way to handle them is to gently and calmly remove their leaders from power via elections - then they'll just sit and sulk for awhile - maybe then they'll get back to helping the poor, being a blessing instead of a judge, etc, etc.

And when I hear of all these kids they're having, raising up as soldiers, etc, etc - well - take that with a grain of salt too - I was once targeted to be one of the soldiers - and I abandoned my post - many of this generation's youth will too, more enamoured by the calling of Jesus then the orders/dictates of the old line leadership in the church.

besides, the most dangerous mass movement in history is American Idol. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

rb

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Whiskey...there is hope. Perhaps start of the pendulum swing...
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Old 01-31-2007, 10:29 PM
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OMG OMG THE CHIRSTIANS ARE COMING! THE CHRISTIANS ARE COMING! THEY PROBABLY DONATE MORE MONEY TO CHARITY THAN I DO AND LIVE A MORE PEACEFUL LIFE THAN ME. OMG OMG OMG.

Fwiw, Christianity is one of the worst predictors of how a person is going to vote, comared to any other religion, gender, race, income level, location, and nationality.
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Old 01-31-2007, 10:53 PM
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As soon as they start strapping bombs on themselves and crashing planes I'll be a bit more concerned about them.

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Just so.
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Old 01-31-2007, 10:56 PM
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As soon as they start strapping bombs on themselves and crashing planes I'll be a bit more concerned about them.

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Yeah, sending someone else to do their dirty work is completely different and not at all crazy.

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And it's not as if people associated with fringe Christian movements haven't been associated with blowing up [censored] like abortion clinics and the Centennial Olympic Park in Atlanta.

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You want some secular nut (una)bombers for balance? I'll maybe come up with some.
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Old 01-31-2007, 11:02 PM
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As soon as they start strapping bombs on themselves and crashing planes I'll be a bit more concerned about them.

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Yeah, sending someone else to do their dirty work is completely different and not at all crazy.

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And it's not as if people associated with fringe Christian movements haven't been associated with blowing up [censored] like abortion clinics and the Centennial Olympic Park in Atlanta.

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You want some secular nut (una)bombers for balance? I'll maybe come up with some.

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When I claim that I'll be worried of secular humanists once they start bombing things, then yes, come up with all the names you want.

Until then, I'm not sure it's relevant.
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