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[Whats up Dawg]

"In hindsight, I think he actually played it well. His play came very close into forcing me into a very bad mistake on the river. I probably fold that spot enough to make the river raise profitable over the long-haul. "


Passing the river with a flush here getting over 15-1 against the biggest loser online is not a good idea.

[PartyGirlUK]

He might have played the river well if he was really good and solid and knew u knew this and were capable of folding.

As he is a fish, he played it terribly. No way in hell it was a bluff raise btw, no way.

[dcb777]

I hope you weren't seriously considering folding this river.

[AntonHeat]

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I hope you weren't seriously considering folding this river.

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esp to nemo

[King Fish]

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He might have played the river well if he was really good and solid and knew u knew this and were capable of folding.

As he is a fish, he played it terribly. No way in hell it was a bluff raise btw, no way.

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Agree 100%. He probably still thinks he won the pot.

[Abbaddabba]

For the river action... 1 bet is going in no matter what - if you check, he bets with nearly 100% of the hands he 4bets the turn with.

When 2 bets go into the river, you tend to be behind.


bet/calling the river seems almost as silly to me as donk/calling the flop.

[mastr]

very easy bet/call against nemo for the very reason of what happened, he loves throwing bets into massive pots thinking he has fold equity. You know you've all seen him do the cap a street fold to a 3rd bet or 4th bet on the next.. You've made a giant pot, bet to get him to raise and call to snap him off. Everyone that says check/call doesn't know nemo i dont' think

[Abbaddabba]

Based on the river raise, how often do you think you're ahead? More than 50%, obviously if you'd prefer 2 bets to go in to one.

But by how much? Because unless you're just barely skimming the 50% barrier, it becomes closer to a bet/3bet or check/raise than it does to a bet/call (largely dependent on his 3bet and capping range).

Being ahead 33.33% of the time is breakeven for a bet/3bet if he only caps with better hands, always caps with better hands, always calls with worse hands AND you always call the 4bet. Since those obviously arent all true, it's considerably closer to 50%. So close that i'd say that if you want to bet/call, there's realy not a big difference between that and bet/3betting.

[mastr]

no because he always calls or caps better and usually folds but can actually 4-bet worse too, meaning you really don't want to put yourself in that spot

[ActionJeff]

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I would call the river. Also, i would only donk the flop if i intended to 3 bet a raise.

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disagree a lot if you mean this in general for donking flops with flush draws

then again I haven't beaten above 1-2 consistently so I don't know anything, but I had to point this out

-Jeff