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Old 01-03-2007, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: commerce 20/40NL

Indeed.
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Old 01-03-2007, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: commerce 20/40NL

Easy push, but I would have made it like 3.8k instead of 2.9 on the turn.
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Old 01-03-2007, 08:18 PM
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Default Re: commerce 20/40NL

why not just push the turn then?
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Old 01-03-2007, 08:39 PM
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Default Re: commerce 20/40NL

bluffthis,

the river is not a negative freeroll if you are check-calling.

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he then only bets when he has you beat

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it is a good thing this is not the case!
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Old 01-03-2007, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: commerce 20/40NL

obv the crux of this hand is how often he is valuebetting AK when he is stucko and has half the pot left on the river.
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Old 01-03-2007, 08:43 PM
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TWP, I guess the obvious answer would be that when you have someone who calls too much, you might risk him folding a lot more hands if he has to call 6300 more than if he has to call 2.8k more.
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Old 01-03-2007, 08:49 PM
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Default Re: commerce 20/40NL

heh,
yeah i realized this hand wasn't that interesting, however the reason i posted it is i've been hearing alot of
"there is no reason to bet as no worse hand calls you"
and then after i pushed the river a couple of people at the table commented that they couldn't believe i wasn't afraid of the boat.

so i pushed the river and he called me with KK.
i really thought he had AK and so my real question in the hand was whether it would be better to check this river because i felt so sure he had AK and wasn't sure if he'd call a push more often then he'd bet if checked too.

obviously after seeing him call with KK there it was a moot point because he clearly had some money to donate for tax purposes.

anyways sorry for the boring hand...no excuses other then i haven't played that much live lately so i don't have alot to pick from and i was really tired so my judgement of what would be interesting was obviously off.
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Old 01-03-2007, 09:06 PM
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from discussion of hand w fsu:
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chance he makes a hero call w/ KK/QQ


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Old 01-03-2007, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: commerce 20/40NL

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bluffthis,

the river is not a negative freeroll if you are check-calling.

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he then only bets when he has you beat

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it is a good thing this is not the case!

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chud,

That was only 1/2 of what I said. Reread or read sober.
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Old 01-03-2007, 09:20 PM
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Default Re: commerce 20/40NL

bluffthis,

i know what you meant of course. i was just highlighting that part. if he is checking behind hands that would call our bet and lose, and only betting when we are behind, obv you are right.

i am just pointing out that i believe that to be irrelevant in this hand.
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