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Old 12-27-2006, 04:59 PM
ZBTHorton ZBTHorton is offline
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Default Re: Never played Stars, just how good are FPPs?

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Let me explain,if i owed you $20 dollars and showed up at your house with $20 in socks,would you consider this equal?I want cash,i dont consider receiving gifts that i dont even want to be the same,even if they are equal in value sorta speak.On top of that,every site gives me this on top of RB and Bonuses,wheres the edge??? Im not sure what your not seeing.

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You do know, you can buy cash in the Stars store right?
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Old 12-27-2006, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: Never played Stars, just how good are FPPs?

"You turn your dollar value, into dollars."

Is this true? Or can you merely turn them into a bonus that still must be cleared with more points???
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Old 12-27-2006, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: Never played Stars, just how good are FPPs?

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"You turn your dollar value, into dollars."

Is this true? Or can you merely turn them into a bonus that still must be cleared with more points???

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It's a bonus, but who cares?

Are you quitting poker or something? No, your going to keep playing. And as you clear the bonus, you get more fpp's...to use for more money.
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Old 12-27-2006, 05:04 PM
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Default Re: Never played Stars, just how good are FPPs?

lol you dont see a difference between having to earn 100,000 points to receive a bonus that every other site gives for free and cold hard cash???
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Old 12-27-2006, 05:05 PM
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lol you dont see a difference between having to earn 100,000 points to receive a bonus that every other site gives for free and cold hard cash???

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Why does it matter? It's money. I couldn't give a [censored] how I get the money. If they want me to earn 10K VPP's, why do I care?

Would I PREFER that I get cash? Sure.
Do I care? No. Why would I? It's just nitpicking.
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Old 12-27-2006, 05:06 PM
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lol you dont see a difference between having to earn 100,000 points to receive a bonus that every other site gives for free and cold hard cash???

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What? Are you serious?

Sites don't "give it for free". Is this a joke? Am I getting leveled?
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Old 12-27-2006, 05:07 PM
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I hear what your saying bro.Everyone looks at things different i guess.Theres nothing wrong with that.Ill quit annoying everyone and return you to the previously scheduled program. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]Peace!
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Old 12-27-2006, 05:08 PM
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lol you dont see a difference between having to earn 100,000 points to receive a bonus that every other site gives for free and cold hard cash???

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What? Are you serious?

Sites don't "give it for free". Is this a joke? Am I getting leveled?

[/ QUOTE ]Forget it,im out lol
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Old 12-27-2006, 05:09 PM
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I hear what your saying bro.Everyone looks at things different i guess.Theres nothing wrong with that.Ill quit annoying everyone and return you to the previously scheduled program. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]Peace!

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Look.

On Absolute. You pay rake. You get rakeback. They don't give you anything for free. You PAY in rake, and they PAY you in rakeback. Why is that free?
On Stars, you pay rake. You get points. You turn points in for cash.

That's the same thing. I'm sorry you don't agree, but it really is. The ONLY difference is that to get the cash on Stars, you must clear a small bonus. But as long as you plan to keep playing, there doesn't matter at all. Not to mention, the bonuses are so small in comparison to the bonuses, even if you wanted to quit playing poker, you would still not care about taking a couple of extra days to clear your last bonus.
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Old 12-27-2006, 05:10 PM
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Default Re: Never played Stars, just how good are FPPs?

Hog, like you, I'm trying to look at my total income from a site. To me this comes from at least five different sources: bonuses, rakeback, cash value of loyalty points, cash value of VIP freerolls, and of course my poker-playing win rate.

I try to reduce each source to a cents-per-hand value to facilitate site vs. site comparisons based on the total of all sources.

Stars has been having 3 or 4 reload bonuses a year vs. Absolutes endless reloads.

Stars has no rakeback vs. Absolute's 28% (soon to be 30%).

Stars FPPs are worth $0.016 each vs. Absolute's ARPs being worth a penny each. You can't make a direct comparison though because earning rates are different based on several factors, not the least of which is the level you are at in the site's VIP program.

Both sites have VIP freerolls. I haven't spent much time calculating the value of these since I usually suck at tourneys (though I did cash for $12 at one this weekend!)

As I stated earlier, I have a higher win rate at Stars than I do at Absolute.

Put it all together, along with the top 5 reasons I spelled out earlier, and which site is better? Who knows. Ultimately, I guess it comes down to which one you are most comfortable playing at. But I don't think it comes down to just whether or not a site has rakeback.
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