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Old 12-17-2006, 04:54 AM
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Default Re: Balla laydown; and I was right

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Old 12-17-2006, 04:54 AM
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Default Re: Balla laydown; and I was right

how you didn't bet that turn is beyond me
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Old 12-17-2006, 04:55 AM
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n the turn I check to him expecting him to bet all kings so the short stacked player pays him off, especially since id be likely to bet most hands with a K or better in my spot too. It really looks like I gave up so any hand that has decent showdown value (strong Q or K) I expect to bet here.

I give up on pots too much imo on the turn and sometimes I like to make CRes on turns like this to keep people from running me out of pots on the turn. Checking the turn here isnt great I admit, but if he bets I can call and lead river or I can make a CR allin. The pots pretty big by the turn so any bet I make gets a fold from alot of hands I think he has here. If he commits alot of his stack with a strong K its hard to laydown for the extra 400 left. or if he makes a kinda bluff with a Q he would have folded that turn my turn lead anyways. Or he could bet a draw and then have to call. But yeah, leading is probably best in this spot.
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Old 12-17-2006, 05:00 AM
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Default Re: Balla laydown; and I was right

ahnuld, what do you do if he bets, you call, and the same river hits?

There are just so many cards that kill your action, and make your hand the 50th nuts.
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Old 12-17-2006, 05:05 AM
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strategy in BBV? WTF! Anyways, if he bets, getting some sort of CR in here is fine. Also there are few cards other than A or 9 which suck. For example if he cheks turn he never has KQ here so any card but 9 or A is basically the nuts.
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Old 12-17-2006, 05:08 AM
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n the turn I check to him expecting him to bet all kings so the short stacked player pays him off, especially since id be likely to bet most hands with a K or better in my spot too. It really looks like I gave up so any hand that has decent showdown value (strong Q or K) I expect to bet here.

I give up on pots too much imo on the turn and sometimes I like to make CRes on turns like this to keep people from running me out of pots on the turn. Checking the turn here isnt great I admit, but if he bets I can call and lead river or I can make a CR allin. The pots pretty big by the turn so any bet I make gets a fold from alot of hands I think he has here. If he commits alot of his stack with a strong K its hard to laydown for the extra 400 left. or if he makes a kinda bluff with a Q he would have folded that turn my turn lead anyways. Or he could bet a draw and then have to call. But yeah, leading is probably best in this spot.

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Alot of this makes sense, it just seems like you couldn't have picked a worse board to do this on.
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Old 12-17-2006, 05:12 AM
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fed,

Actually, this is a great board to do this on. He's not taking one off with AJ or AT. He has to call off too much of his stack on the flop to ever make that profitable. Due to the fact that there is only one draw out there and it is really obvious when it hits, this is the perfect board to do it on. But like I said, a turn bet is better.
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Old 12-17-2006, 08:35 AM
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I think the turn check is obvious because nine of spades is coming on the river. Save lots of monies against the draws...
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Old 12-17-2006, 09:16 AM
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beat: Hero checks
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Old 12-17-2006, 09:16 AM
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n the turn I check to him expecting him to bet all kings so the short stacked player pays him off, especially since id be likely to bet most hands with a K or better in my spot too. It really looks like I gave up so any hand that has decent showdown value (strong Q or K) I expect to bet here.

I give up on pots too much imo on the turn and sometimes I like to make CRes on turns like this to keep people from running me out of pots on the turn. Checking the turn here isnt great I admit, but if he bets I can call and lead river or I can make a CR allin. The pots pretty big by the turn so any bet I make gets a fold from alot of hands I think he has here. If he commits alot of his stack with a strong K its hard to laydown for the extra 400 left. or if he makes a kinda bluff with a Q he would have folded that turn my turn lead anyways. Or he could bet a draw and then have to call. But yeah, leading is probably best in this spot.

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