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#21
12-16-2006, 01:37 AM
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Re: Phone shuffle
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A game of Durak, anyone? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] podkidnoi ili perevodnoi?... [/Russian] It's a reference to a Russian game played with a 36-card deck. Not poker-like at all... 
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#22
12-16-2006, 01:46 AM
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Re: Phone shuffle
Her is one possible way. One player decides on the order by which each player arranges his/her deck. For example, Ac, 2h, 7d,10s, kd, 2d etc....
So, after that is done each player has the cards in the same order. Then one player ask each other player to name a number between 10 and 20. Let's say one player picks 13 and the other picks 9 (for a total of 22). Now the players count off the first 22 cards and put them on the bottom. They still all have the same sequence as each other. They then agree to each put the cards in a grid in front of them. They aggree to 4 rows of 13. Then they take turns establishing a "common" grid. For example, I say the first card goes in spot 1 in the 3rd row, and all three players do that. The next guy says the 2nd card becomes the first card in row 2, etc. This goes on until all 52 cards are in the 4 rows of 13. After this is done, all the grids should be identical. Also, unless someone has a photgrahic memory, nobody would no where the cards are unless they looked at the initial master sequence list, and they are all "honest" so they would not do that. Now, to determine the hands. First, one player could claim the first 12 cards of row 3 as his, and the next guy could claim the first 12 cards in row 1 as his, and the last guy could claim the first 12 cards in row 4 as his, for example. Note: I did this with a 52 card deck, with 36 in play, and 12 for each player. The same process could work with a 36 card deck with 12 for each player. Just make three rows of 12 of 6 rows of 6.
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#23
12-16-2006, 01:56 AM
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Re: Phone shuffle
I think we are looking for a mathematical solution, not one that can be foiled by either player having a perfect memory.
I think I've solved it. If this works it is pretty elegant: <font color=" white">C shuffles the deck. A and B agree on an order to listen to the phone, so that during each 5 second interval for the next 2 minutes, exactly one of them will be listening. For example, A could listen for the first minute, then B listens for the next minute. Or A listens for 5 seconds, then B for 10, etc. They make sure each of them is listening for a total of 12 5-second intervals. Every 5 seconds for 2 minutes, C deals out one of the remaining card and calls its name down the phone. C takes the remaining 12 cards and they start to play.</font>
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#24
12-16-2006, 01:59 AM
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Re: Phone shuffle
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I think we are looking for a mathematical solution, not one that can be foiled by either player having a perfect memory. I think I've solved it. If this works it is pretty elegant: <font color=" white">C shuffles the deck. A and B agree on an order to listen to the phone, so that during each 5 second interval for the next 2 minutes, exactly one of them will be listening. For example, A could listen for the first minute, then B listens for the next minute. Or A listens for 5 seconds, then B for 10, etc. They make sure each of them is listening for a total of 12 5-second intervals. Every 5 seconds for 2 minutes, C deals out one of the remaining card and calls its name down the phone. C takes the remaining 12 cards and they start to play.</font> [/ QUOTE ] So C knows everyone's cards???
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#25
12-16-2006, 02:02 AM
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Re: Phone shuffle
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[ QUOTE ] I think we are looking for a mathematical solution, not one that can be foiled by either player having a perfect memory. I think I've solved it. If this works it is pretty elegant: <font color=" white">C shuffles the deck. A and B agree on an order to listen to the phone, so that during each 5 second interval for the next 2 minutes, exactly one of them will be listening. For example, A could listen for the first minute, then B listens for the next minute. Or A listens for 5 seconds, then B for 10, etc. They make sure each of them is listening for a total of 12 5-second intervals. Every 5 seconds for 2 minutes, C deals out one of the remaining card and calls its name down the phone. C takes the remaining 12 cards and they start to play.</font> [/ QUOTE ] So C knows everyone's cards??? [/ QUOTE ] Theres only 36 cards in the deck, and all 36 are dealt out. He'd know which cards his opponents had just by looking at his own hand, it doesnt matter that he read them into the phone. The point is that he doesn't know which player recieved each card.
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#26
12-16-2006, 03:00 AM
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Re: Phone shuffle
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think we are looking for a mathematical solution, not one that can be foiled by either player having a perfect memory. I think I've solved it. If this works it is pretty elegant: <font color=" white">C shuffles the deck. A and B agree on an order to listen to the phone, so that during each 5 second interval for the next 2 minutes, exactly one of them will be listening. For example, A could listen for the first minute, then B listens for the next minute. Or A listens for 5 seconds, then B for 10, etc. They make sure each of them is listening for a total of 12 5-second intervals. Every 5 seconds for 2 minutes, C deals out one of the remaining card and calls its name down the phone. C takes the remaining 12 cards and they start to play.</font> [/ QUOTE ] So C knows everyone's cards??? [/ QUOTE ] Theres only 36 cards in the deck, and all 36 are dealt out. He'd know which cards his opponents had just by looking at his own hand, it doesnt matter that he read them into the phone. The point is that he doesn't know which player recieved each card. [/ QUOTE ] Cool. PairTheBoard
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#27
12-16-2006, 07:14 AM
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Re: Phone shuffle
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Thanks for the welcome. Your username sounds awfully familiar, but I can't remember who you became (I assume you changed it to something I should know better?) [/ QUOTE ] So far, we've never been on the same casino cruise.
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#28
12-16-2006, 10:55 AM
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Re: Phone shuffle
the op is not mostsmooth
i dont know what the fark you guys are talking about
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#29
12-16-2006, 12:56 PM
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Re: Phone shuffle
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[ QUOTE ] Sorry, I must be stupid, but I have absolutely no clue what you're asking? [/ QUOTE ] I meant, how do they play the game while on the phone? [/ QUOTE ] Sorry mostsmooth.. when you post to the same thread with multiple gimmick accounts ("mute", I assume), you have to expect some confusion.
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#30
12-16-2006, 12:59 PM
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Re: Phone shuffle
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Sorry, I must be stupid, but I have absolutely no clue what you're asking? [/ QUOTE ] I meant, how do they play the game while on the phone? [/ QUOTE ] Sorry mostsmooth.. when you post to the same thread with multiple gimmick accounts ("mute", I assume), you have to expect some confusion. [/ QUOTE ] Yikes!
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