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Old 12-15-2006, 03:36 AM
yvesaint yvesaint is offline
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Default Re: 400NL: AA, very passive

i like this check far better in a heads up pot
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Old 12-15-2006, 04:41 AM
Megenoita Megenoita is offline
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Default Re: 400NL: AA, very passive

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I would not bet the flop.

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Care to elaborate? I would think this is a pretty ez bet

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I do it to control pot size/ induce a bluff/ under rep your hand and get paid off on later streets.

But by checking the flop and just relaxing on the hand, don't get married to it later.

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You don't have to under-rep your hand; you are c'betting on a scary board. They can easily perceive it as nothing. Of course I don't mind checking it here, but I'm just thinking that a Q is going to call your c'bet, you both check the turn, he will either bet the river or check/call it. I'm not sure how much it matters, but I'd not want a bad hand to backdoor a weird better hand on me via getting the flop checked through, him semi-bluffing the turn, and him value betting the river.

Bet the flop, check the turn, call the river.

As played, you got lucky that they ID'ed their hands.
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Old 12-15-2006, 08:46 AM
Kristian Kristian is offline
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Default Re: 400NL: AA, very passive

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by not betting the flop, you don't know if BB is doing this with a J or just a naked queen. In fact judging by the fact you posted this I'm assuming BB won with a naked Q and you're wondering why the eff you didn't just bet. Also if you're gonna make this flop play you should probably call the turn.

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IMO no one raises this turn without at least a J with a strangely passive preflop raiser still to act. I shouldn't have included turn action since it's sort of like posting results. The interesting part is the flop.

I understand the problems, but I like the flop check partly because peeling off a safe turn makes it easier to distinguish between a J playing tricky and a draw. The downside of course is that if a scary turn falls, I have to let it go relatively easily.
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