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Old 12-11-2006, 01:36 PM
rkidwell rkidwell is offline
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Default Re: Anyone play this different?

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After reading Doc's and others replies about betting the flop here with flopped top pair in an unraised pot where no one has shown any strength yet, I have a question. What if the situation were slightly different where the SB bets into us here on this flop? SB's range could be huge considering SB only put in part of a bet to see the flop. Do we think SB has a K with a bigger kicker, a set, 2 pair, flush draw, etc. and fold the flop? Or is this thinking simply MUBS and you should call or even raise here? Thanks in advance for any advice on this kind of situation.

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Well, we have a read that SB is loose preflop, so, while he could be doing this with a better K, he could also be semibluffing the FD, or betting with a weaker K, or even a T sometimes.

I think putting him on a set or 2 pair just because he bets the flop is MUBS. Also, I think you accidentally implied that if we thought SB was betting the flop with a flush draw, you'd want to fold. Might wanna double check that.

I'd probably raise here, tho I can think of some arguments for calling. The one thing I'm not doing is folding.

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Thanks a lot Doc, that was very helpful. You are correct that I did not mean to imply we fold here if we put SB on the flush draw - in my long list of SB's possible holdings I included the FD and then added "fold" at the end. I need to read my posts more carefully before clicking . . .

Sometimes I think that I struggle with MUBS because I look at another player's action (check, bet, raise, check/raise, etc.) with what kind of cards I would have if I acted in the same way. I think I was giving SB too much credit here for leading out the betting. A call probably isn't terrible (with the plan to wait to see the turn card and if safe raise then), but I think a raise here might be better to try to eliminate later players. My plan after the raise would be to continue betting the turn and river even UI but fold to a re-raise on the flop, call a re-raise on the turn and call the river.
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Old 12-11-2006, 02:19 PM
Sushiglutton Sushiglutton is offline
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Default Re: WOW GUYS

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the board is dry.

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I bet this every time even though I consider KT6 with a two-flush to be a pretty connected board
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