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Old 12-11-2006, 10:56 PM
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You are very likely behind the COs crappy 2 pair or a set as your typical Comm-20 players are going to be passive. Check.

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This was my thinking, so I checked. It checked around. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

The river was an offsuit J. I bet, intending to fold to a raise. (I think this is pretty standard, but I'm just finishing the action of the hand). I guess the check-thru on the turn had me second-guessing whether I should have bet.
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Old 12-12-2006, 12:36 AM
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how old is the co? and what race is he? and does he look like an internet player?

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you are awesome.
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Old 12-12-2006, 12:49 AM
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Default Re: Turn decision, action pot

Why not raise pf?
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Old 12-12-2006, 01:13 AM
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The river was an offsuit J. I bet, intending to fold to a raise. (I think this is pretty standard, but I'm just finishing the action of the hand). I guess the check-thru on the turn had me second-guessing whether I should have bet.

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Bah, results, results...given your descriptions, the action, and typical game set of the Com-20 (passive), your check if fine.
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Old 12-12-2006, 02:38 AM
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Default Re: river action

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This was my thinking, so I checked. It checked around.

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Old 12-12-2006, 01:48 PM
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First off, I would have definitely raised preflop. There are basically three blinds with the poster in, and you don't want to let two of them get their garbage to the flop for free.

I'd bet the turn as well. I've never played at the Commerce, but it seems like there are a ton of hands that would want to take a free card on the turn, and there are also some one-pair hands that might take a free showdown if you c/c the turn. If you do get raised by two pair, you're not losing much anyway, since you still likely have 14 outs.
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Old 12-12-2006, 02:19 PM
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Default Re: river action

If you think someone might take a free card, aren't you assuming their possible holdings include the A-high or K-high flush draws? If so, how can I have 14 outs?

I think people may be relying too heavily on my draw; I'm starting to think, on the turn here, that I don't want to make my flush anymore and the black T may have bailed me out.
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Old 12-12-2006, 06:01 PM
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If you do get raised by two pair, you're not losing much anyway, since you still likely have 14 outs.

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I'm talking about turn play here, and saying if you are up against two pair and he raises you, you're not losing much anyway since you have 14 outs in that scenario. Obviously, the hands that he raises you are different than the ones he checks behind with. When he has a draw, you don't have to worry about outs since you're currently in the lead with your pair of tens.
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Old 12-13-2006, 04:54 AM
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Default Re: Turn decision, action pot

lol... are you kidding? if i pay 4 bets on flop, i'm not folding turn cuz i suspect my draw to 2nd nuts is no good....
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