bullets vs cts, river action?

[philipsaurus]

hello kqdd.

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def check that river

[ahnuld]

CTS likes to float no, so then why the [censored] are you betting the turn. Stack sizes are perfect for a CR allin.

[trplthrt]

I check river 100% of the time and cc or cf prob somewhere 50/50ish. Very gameflow/read dependant. Prob more check fold than check call, but I don't think it is definitive.

[cts]

I think your turn bet size combined with the way we were playing made it pretty transparent you had at least AK. Since you are in fact not much stronger than AK, and it would be unwise for me to try to bluff someone off of the nuts (AK), I think you should check/fold the river.

[Jeff W]

Check turn all day.

c/f river.

[Triumph36]

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Check turn all day.

c/f river.

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Could I get the reasoning for either one of these? I assume you are going for a turn c/r?

And then what changes that into a fold on the river? The heart? Because cole peels twice with hearts?

[Jeff W]

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Check turn all day.

c/f river.

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Could I get the reasoning for either one of these? I assume you are going for a turn c/r?

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Yes, betting is awkward--he has to fold worse hands except for combo draws.

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And then what changes that into a fold on the river? The heart? Because cole peels twice with hearts?

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Name some hands we beat? KdXd etc? There is a big diff. between calling flop and calling flop/turn.

[aejones]

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hello kqdd.

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my thought exaaaaaaaaaaactly and I KJdd is the only other thing it might be. or KT of diamonds i guess... or MAAAAAAAAAAAAybe QJ/JT of diamonds. OK, thats all I can think of. like other said, I dont' see him playing so call call call straightforward with the heart flush draw unless he picked up a straight draw on the turn (or maybe a pair? but T9hh is impossible, so maybe 89hh). bottom line is that imo thats the only thing that is plausible and it seems he would have found a raise on an earlier street with a set or whatever.

but yo i wouldn';t fold here. the optimal line is prob check clal here vs cts, and the optimal line would prob be to push vs me cause i'm a calling station.

[Requin]

JhTh, QhJh, 8h7h, Th8h

vs.

KdQd, KdJd

I realise we don't have to win 50% here but I don't know that you can assume cts shoves a king here 100% of the time.

And depending on cts AhTh is possible.