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09-24-2006, 05:58 PM
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[ QUOTE ] I think the raise is good, but maybe I'm wrong. I would be shocked if the BB "almost always" has a flush here. [/ QUOTE ] yeah, seriously. just calling with the nut straight here is so weak. [/ QUOTE ] the way the hand was played, I really dont see a worse hand calling ur raise on this river 
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#22
09-24-2006, 06:06 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] the big blind while timid usually, was on a rush and would be aggressive enough now to bet two pair. [/ QUOTE ] Don't you think that he would have bet that hand on the turn? [/ QUOTE ] p.s. you could make a good case for folding pre. [/ QUOTE ] no. [/ QUOTE ] no?
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#23
09-24-2006, 06:13 PM
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I raised the river because of the guy in between who called and the fact that the guy in the big blind while timid usually, was on a rush and would be aggressive enough now to bet two pair [/ QUOTE ] What two pair are you putting him on that plays like that. If he was on a rush he would probably bet any J when a blank falls on the turn, no? 95 96 is going to bet into two players that are probably on draws when a card falls on the river that completes two different draws?
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#24
09-24-2006, 06:13 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] the big blind while timid usually, was on a rush and would be aggressive enough now to bet two pair. [/ QUOTE ] Don't you think that he would have bet that hand on the turn? [/ QUOTE ] p.s. you could make a good case for folding pre. [/ QUOTE ] no. [/ QUOTE ] no? [/ QUOTE ] you can't make a case for folding preflop
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#25
09-24-2006, 06:15 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] the big blind while timid usually, was on a rush and would be aggressive enough now to bet two pair. [/ QUOTE ] Don't you think that he would have bet that hand on the turn? [/ QUOTE ] p.s. you could make a good case for folding pre. [/ QUOTE ] no. [/ QUOTE ] no? [/ QUOTE ] I think it goes from best to worst: 1. call 2. raise 3. fold
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#26
09-24-2006, 07:27 PM
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[ QUOTE ] Still plotting revenge for the beats you laid that session at the Wynn [/ QUOTE ] I only remember the KJ hand as a beat, but since you guys were playing very aggro PF, I didn't think that I was in bad shape vs. your ranges there. [/ QUOTE ] Ha! We were both opening liberally, but when I raise UTG and the other guy three-bets UTG+1, and the other guy is noted poker thinker FoxwoodsFiend, KJ is in bad shape. (Let this be a lesson to you all! Even the renowned Barry is susceptible to overcompensation for perceived opposition aggression!) [ QUOTE ] In that case, you had a real hand. I also remember a few beats that you laid on me too. The J3 sooted comes to mind... [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, probably a liberal blind-steal against a guy I had pegged as an East Coast nit. Who knew you were the renowned Barry? Good meeting you, by the way. (Really.) Also, turns out you were sitting right in front of us at the Foxwoods WPT final table taping last year. --Nate
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#28
09-25-2006, 08:59 AM
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Re: results
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] the big blind while timid usually, was on a rush and would be aggressive enough now to bet two pair. [/ QUOTE ] Don't you think that he would have bet that hand on the turn? [/ QUOTE ] p.s. you could make a good case for folding pre. [/ QUOTE ] Really? I would like to hear the reasoning behind this.
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#29
09-25-2006, 09:10 AM
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[ QUOTE ] the big blind while timid usually, was on a rush and would be aggressive enough now to bet two pair. [/ QUOTE ] Don't you think that he would have bet that hand on the turn? [ QUOTE ] Just calling the river doesn't seem right here for some reason. I don't know. Perhaps someone could tell me why or why not. [/ QUOTE ] The BB almost always has a flush with that betting pattern and you can't beat it, that's why a raise is bad. [/ QUOTE ] He would definitely bet two pair on the turn. Obviously he didn't have two pair on the turn. I thought he made two pair on the river. I don't think he is tricky enough, but there is also the possibility that since he knows me well and knows im aggressive, he could be checking the turn to check raise it also. I think saying that the big blind almost always has a flush here is stretching it. There are a lot of hands he would bet on the river, since there was still a donkey in between and I played the hand like a weak made hand rather than a draw since i would be raising a lot of draws from where I was.
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#30
09-25-2006, 09:14 AM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think the raise is good, but maybe I'm wrong. I would be shocked if the BB "almost always" has a flush here. [/ QUOTE ] yeah, seriously. just calling with the nut straight here is so weak. [/ QUOTE ] the way the hand was played, I really dont see a worse hand calling ur raise on this river [/ QUOTE ] you really don't see a single worse hand calling my raise on the river? Secondly, even if that is true, which I disagree with, how about the guy in the middle?
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