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Old 09-19-2006, 11:40 AM
geormiet geormiet is offline
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Default Re: AA headsup on KK board.

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SB called.

River is K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

SB checks. Hero Bets. SB raises. Hero?

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I am checking behind on this river

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looooooooooooooool. u serious? we're losing to a K, AQ, and a full house.

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what hand is calling your value bet?

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Not that many. QQ, AT, AJ, A8, or pp's 99 and below if he sucks. I thought about this hand for a little longer than a second, and I think that if I am value betting it's only if I can fold to a c-r.
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Old 09-19-2006, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: AA headsup on KK board.

I think u should call his 3bet preflop because then he will normally bet flop and turn (hoping u fold turn, since for what he knows u can have a big range of hands) and he will call a raise and play back at you with a 3bet with a wider range since he is missreading your hand.

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In this actual hand I would bet river and normally call but fold if he was passive/loved to slowplay big hands.
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Old 09-19-2006, 11:47 AM
gopnik gopnik is offline
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Default Re: AA headsup on KK board.

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SB called.

River is K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

SB checks. Hero Bets. SB raises. Hero?

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I am checking behind on this river

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looooooooooooooool. u serious? we're losing to a K, AQ, and a full house.

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what hand is calling your value bet?

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Not that many. QQ, AT, AJ, A8, or pp's 99 and below if he sucks. I thought about this hand for a little longer than a second, and I think that if I am value betting it's only if I can fold to a c-r.

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don't you think a LAG is c/raising somewhere with QQ or AT?
I really don't see a value bet on the river.
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Old 09-19-2006, 11:49 AM
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Default Re: AA headsup on KK board.

I always have a hard time folding to the river c/r vs a player like this, even though I generally think bad players fastplay their bluffs and draws but slowplay their good hands. I think the call is close (i think too close that I call).
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Old 09-19-2006, 11:51 AM
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Default Re: AA headsup on KK board.

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what hand is calling your value bet?

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any pp, any 8,any T, any J, sometimes A-hi. This is a value bet vs. this player.
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Old 09-19-2006, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: AA headsup on KK board.

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don't you think a LAG is c/raising somewhere with QQ or AT?
I really don't see a value bet on the river.

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Based on the players description (not tricky) I don't see him c-r'ing AT or QQ vs. a capper on a KKTx board.
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Old 09-19-2006, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: AA headsup on KK board.

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SB called.

River is K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

SB checks. Hero Bets. SB raises. Hero?

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I am checking behind on this river

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looooooooooooooool. u serious? we're losing to a K, AQ, and a full house.

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what hand is calling your value bet?

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I dunno. a ten, jack, eight, or pocket pair? people play badly sometimes. checking behind is sooooooooooooo weak. i bet/fold most of the time, i might call the raise occasionally if i am on monkey tilt or the opponent is redic
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Old 09-20-2006, 01:38 AM
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Default Re: AA headsup on KK board.

my kind of poster, pm me for some real discussion without these buffoons.
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Old 09-20-2006, 12:04 PM
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Default Re: AA headsup on KK board.

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my kind of poster, pm me for some real discussion without these buffoons.

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Yeah. Teach him how to breakeven for 150k+ hands so that you have someone to share your misery with.
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