Francisco Liriano is pitching right now

[Chris Daddy Cool]

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They did this with Johan Santana and they are largely considered idiots for keeping him in long relief for as long as they did. GM Terry Ryan was patient enough with Liriano; this injury was going to happen no matter what.

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well to be fair, santana has never had any injury problems. maybe cuz he was babied early on? who knows. its easy to look back and say "i told you so" but who knows how things would have worked out if done differently.

and also according to espn, liriano felt perfectly fine in a rehab start and the org didn't think they rushed him back in. if anything, if liriano needs surgery, it is better now than later so he can be ready to go at the beginning of 07 rather than the middle of it.

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I don't know where you heard that, but if that is truly the case, and he would need TJ surgery, then it makes sense to put him out there now.

The earlier you find out, the better.

[samjjones]

According to reports, Liriano heard a "pop" in his elbow on his last pitch, and felt a lot of pain. This is classic UCL tear. Tommy John next week, even with no setbacks in rehab (which is unlikely), will be out almost all of next year, and probably won't be "right" until mid-2008 at the earliest.

[Karak567]

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According to reports, Liriano heard a "pop" in his elbow on his last pitch, and felt a lot of pain. This is classic UCL tear. Tommy John next week, even with no setbacks in rehab (which is unlikely), will be out almost all of next year, and probably won't be "right" until mid-2008 at the earliest.

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A perfect example of this is Octavio Dotel this year.

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According to reports, Liriano heard a "pop" in his elbow on his last pitch, and felt a lot of pain. This is classic UCL tear. Tommy John next week, even with no setbacks in rehab (which is unlikely), will be out almost all of next year, and probably won't be "right" until mid-2008 at the earliest.

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sad

bright news is pitchers often are better after getting the surgery, and he'll be 24 in 08 so thats still very young

[TheHip41]

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jeez, u wouldn't think a team like the twins would risk their future for a couple of weeks. Sure, it's a tight race, but it's not fair to the future or to liriano for them to try this. Hopefully, this doesn't get too bad...

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baseball teams can't worry about the future all the time.

Look at the cubs from a few years ago. They had an awesome starting rotation, blew it in the playoffs, and everyone is like, no biggie, look at our rotation.

Wood, Prior, Zambrano, some other dudes I forgot.

THen, they get hurt, or the offense sucks, and the cubs turn into the worst team in the majors in a few years.

Even with Johan + Liriano going full blast next year,t here is nothing saying the other 3 starters suck, and the offense sucks, and the twins go 79-83.

If they have a chance, they have to go for it.

[Cbroods]

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I don't know where you heard that, but if that is truly the case, and he would need TJ surgery, then it makes sense to put him out there now.

The earlier you find out, the better.

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Someone on Espn News said it, can't remember who.

[prohornblower]

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Even with Johan + Liriano going full blast next year,t here is nothing saying the other 3 starters suck, and the offense sucks, and the twins go 79-83.

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What?? No.

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If they have a chance, they have to go for it.

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Again, not necessarily. You do realize they are BARELY holding the WILD CARD, right? And IIRC, they have a handful of games remaining with the Tigers. There is/was still a chance that they don't even make the playoffs this year, even if Liriano pitched healthy for the duration.

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Even with Johan + Liriano going full blast next year,t here is nothing saying the other 3 starters suck, and the offense sucks, and the twins go 79-83.

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What?? No.

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you're telling me the twins have 0 chance of having a down season in '07 with a healthy liriano and santana? next year, mauer will not hit .350, redmond not .330, morneau not .325, punto not .300, tyner not .315, bartlett not .330. that level of across-the-board decline from your offense is hard to offset.

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If they have a chance, they have to go for it.

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Again, not necessarily. You do realize they are BARELY holding the WILD CARD, right? And IIRC, they have a handful of games remaining with the Tigers. There is/was still a chance that they don't even make the playoffs this year, even if Liriano pitched healthy for the duration.

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this is precisely the point. sending liriano in now is critical because he could easily mean the difference between going to the playoffs and not. if your team is way ahead or way behind, it makes much less sense to take risks.

i don't know how badly hurt the team thought liriano was going into that start, but the way the twins baby their young pitchers, i really doubt they thought there was any significant chance of jeopardizing his career.

[The Colossus]

As a Yankees fan, I'm sort of glad he's hurt.