how to play LA maniac lucky idiot?

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I was on the button with 76 suited and raised 4 times BB. Small blind reraised 3 times my amount. I called and the flop was 786. The small blind went all-in for his huge stack. It was an easy call for me. The rest was history.

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SB with T9s, raising to isolate, sends you home?

Oh, no, wait. Playing against people unable to lay down the big pocket pair keeps you profitable.

Again, from your example,
position + flop hitting you like a ton of bricks > preflop starting hand selection . Plus throw in bad post flop play from others.

WOW, what a concept. TPGK reduced in value against a play any two maniac.

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[xVICTORx]

That is not how I play, I was recommending how to play against maniacs. You could be sitting there with TPTK thinking that you are owning the world, but the opposition will be sitting there with 42off and actually owning you. How did that opposition sneak in the pot with a holding like that???? Because that if you hold AKs and see a raise before you, you either call or raise a little, and then when on the turn and the board A422 faced with an all-in bet what do you do??? So, you see, how hard it is to read aggressive players?

Remember, when you play super tight, your stack builds slowly, but leaves you FAST. LAGs don't mind loosing few small pots here and there, but when they get you - it is usually for your entire stack. That's why I was saying, that you must try to keep the pot small if all you have is a pair post flop and you did not raise HUGE, and bet small post flop and get a feel for what could your opponent is holding. Don't come out firing huge bets as they could be owning you and you will either win a little or loose alot.

[CaseS87]

why would you ever fold AA preflop in a cash game?? please explain

[NutFlopnDonk]

A lot of LAG players are some of the most straight forward to read. The trick is to pay attention to every pot they are in and notice the differences between when they are betting to steal and when they are betting for value. I see so many LAG players get called when they go all in and have the nuts. Also, bluff trapping can work against some of these guys if you know how to pull it off.

[Dunzo]

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you will find yourself sitting at 5-7 times your starting stack (eg. if you playing $100NL, you'd be sitting at $500-$700 at the end of your session).

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I can see your logic here but the rest I don't get.

But seriously, how do you avoid hitting a hand actually good enough to get all in with (eg. 72o on a 732 flop) against an even bigger hand (eg. 33 on a 732 flop) and getting stacked yourself?

[mikever]

By making a good read. e.g. Would opponent reraise preflop from small blind with 33? Perhaps, if he was a tricky player who thought you were blind stealing. But if he's a straightforward player, then you can pretty much elimiate that hand, and know you're good. Even with the tricky player, it'd be just unfortunate for you if he reraised with 33 and hit flop on your two pair.

[CaseS87]

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why would you ever fold AA preflop in a cash game?? please explain

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so victor.... you gonna answer my question or just call me stupid and leave it at that?

[xVICTORx]

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why would you ever fold AA preflop in a cash game?? please explain

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so victor.... you gonna answer my question or just call me stupid and leave it at that?

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OK, the question was that you are on the button and 4 players went all-in before you and 2 players after you left to act ( lets assume that everyone is playing $100NL and everyone has that much going all-in). So, the first question is what are the odds of winning with AA against 4 other players and what are the pot odds?? The second question is, will this be a sound decision will that be a total gamble?? Third, why would you risk your whole stack in this situation?? Are you sure that you are going to win against 4 other players?? There are two more players left to act, what if they jump in the pot too??

So, therefore, calling this particular all-in bet would be totally wrong unless you actually want to gamble and don’t care about protection of your stack. There will be plenty of other opportunities for you to put your money in, but IMO, this particular one is not it.

[ZenMusician]

I never trust anyone that doesn't know the difference between
"loose" and "lose". Can you also use the phrase "putting your
opponent to a decision..." a few more times? Jamie Gold may
be even better than Moneymaker for us all.

-ZEN

[mlagoo]

lol xVICTORx is awesome