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betgo · #21 01-25-2006, 02:28 PM

Doyle won a huge pot in the PSI1 but flat calling in this situation.

Cloutier and McEvoy give this as a standard play. I know they are a dubious authority, but still.

I don't see what's wrong with flat calling if you think there is a good chance someone will come over top.

ubermensch2k · #22 01-25-2006, 02:50 PM

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This is not a time to be cute, reraise to 2500 and hope the mini raiser has a big hand. This is the time to attack and make the most of the situation.
I'll take the AA and the variance every time.

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BettyBoopAA · #23 01-25-2006, 02:56 PM

i think flat calling is fine for a player with strong reads of the table or a high chance of someone coming over the top. It also works well for a known aggressive player like Doyle since it adds deception.

However, this is the op mindset
" i told myself that my chips were probably going in the middle no matter what was on the flop, so i flat called - hoping to get another caller or two."

With this mindset your better of making sure more money is in the pot preflop.

DevinLake · #24 01-25-2006, 03:04 PM

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I don't agree with this. Flat calling from early position with deep money is pretty standard. After all, your goal is to get allin preflop.

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With deep stacks, the last thing I want to do is get it in preflop, even with AA (unless they have AK, but obviously if they want to get it in preflop that's only one of several hands they can have). When I say deep I mean above 50 bb's, simply because the 20% chance I have of being crippled is something I tend to avoid.

Chances are, if he has something strong (AK, KK, QQ, even JJ) and the flop isn't terrible for both of you, he's getting it in on the flop too. Let your hand be defined a little bit more. Besides, if you DON'T reraise preflop and you raise his flop bet, he will likely think his overpair is good more often than not.

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