This is my story (long, boring)

[AntonHeat]

wow this is pretty harsh im sorry to hear [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

gl with your future and please stop playing poker

[ChipWrecked]

I will reply as one of those 'family members' you mention.

My background is working class, buy my wife's family has money on both her (divorced) parents' sides.

Her dad is a degenerate gambler.

He owns a company and earns good cash flow from it; but he is pissing away the legacy he inherited and could pass to the next generations as fast as he can go.

He has had to sell a million-dollar house to pay off bookies, he spends every weekend at the track losing his ass, and he recently had to borrow from a loan shark to make payroll for his company. He owes tens of thousands to one of his other children.

The resentment this fosters against him from the rest of his family is great.

Coming clean to the board anonymously isn't good enough. You already debased yourself to your parents and that wasn't good enough.

You need to hit GA immediately, and get your head and your ass wired together.

You are playing with your family's love and respect, as well as your children's future.

Take it from one of the downline generations. The urge I feel to kick my father-in-law's ass whenever I see him is powerful. Don't have people looking at you the same way.

[TStoneMBD]

wow man i dont know what to say. obviously you are extremely reckless and have a serious gambling problem. thats easy to realize and im sure you know its true. now the problem is your debt. how the hell are you going to get out of a 50k debt? which is why you turn to gambling. you see gambling as the only way to have a chance to fix your life. itll take years of work at your job to pay off your yet and with the interest rate youre forced to pay on your yet it might take forever.

you do have an opportunity to turn your life around. that opportunity is being introduced to 2p2 and to poker. you have the opportunity to claim discipline and responsibility in your life. you can dedicate your time to really learning how to play the game of poker through avid reading of the strategy forums. you can discipline yourself to no longer take shots at games in which you arent bankrolled for. learn how to become skilled at poker and learn the art of multitabling and you can make a very significant hourly rate in low limit games. i know that i personally turned $100/hr 8tabling 3/6 for a while. this may be possible for you to. but realize it may take a very long time to get out of debt. you arent going to solve your problems overnight. you are going to have to accept that slow and steady wins the race and playing the game of the rabit is whats lead you here.

if you decide to play the game of the tortoise you may get out of debt within a couple of years if youre skilled, disciplined and fortunate, maybe much less than that. if you cant find it in yourself to become disciplined and responsible, it may take a decade or longer to get out of debt, or it may even get progressively worse.

poker is a double-edged sword

[Reef]

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You have a serious addiction to gambling.

STOP TODAY. CALL GA AND GET TO A MEETING.

E-mail every poker site you've played at. Tell them to cancel your accounts and never let you open another one. Make sure they know you have a gambling addiction.

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[Reef]

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you have the opportunity to claim discipline and responsibility in your life. you can dedicate your time to really learning how to play the game of poker through avid reading of the strategy forums. you can discipline yourself to no longer take shots at games in which you arent bankrolled for. learn how to become skilled at poker and learn the art of multitabling and you can make a very significant hourly rate in low limit games.

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He has a gambling problem and this is definetaly not a legitimate option.

[NL Newbie]

Don't know what to say, i'll never understand the logic behind a gambling addiction. maybe because i have high willpower and avoid these? Maybe because i think psychological addictions are BS?


You know like the fat people who eat their buckets of ice cream and say "Ive tried dieting but i just cant"? Wow they annoy me.

However after reading this story im undecided, however good luck to you. Go to GA and get some help, although you seem very concerned to be found out(hence the new name to post this). You need to just put down your pride/ego and get it sorted.


All the best,
Do yourself a favour & email add gambling sites informing them of your addiction so your accounts are terminated. Your best off not playing at all untill you get help you need.

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My advise is to stay away from all forms of gambling--even poker--for your family's sake FOREVER.

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[NorthernGuy]

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Micro,
I disagree. If he has a poor paying job, the last thing he should be doing is playing poker. Thats what got him in this mess in the first place. If he isn't making much, he should either get a better job or a second job so that he has a guaranteed income that he can put towards paying down his debt.

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I agree that the last thing OP should be doing is playing poker to get out of debt. That's what got him there in the first place as it's obvious he can't control the levels he plays at and is always chasing losses and doubling up when he wins.

OP, if your salary isn't enough to come up with a reasonable plan to get out of debt, then search for a higher paying job or get another part-time job (or both). Filing for bankruptcy is the weasel way out. You spent the money so suck up and pay off the debts. The real sad part of the story is that you've brought the family along for the ride. It's too bad your wife has to put up with tough times, while struggling to pay off the debt, because you were an idiot.

[TStoneMBD]

you realize that he has no way to get out of debt other than to get good at poker right? telling him to quit gambling is a nice showcase of ideaology and problem avoidance.

[rsliu]

Jesus, no. This may be the worst advice I've ever seen.

Have you ever been in a situation where you've had a family to provide for and 50k in debt? You sound like a winning player so I'm going to assume you haven't. And for that matter, neither have I. But can you imagine psychologically how difficult it must be to wager money when you are that deep in the hole? I mean, people start playing scared when they have a 10k downswing with a 40k roll. How do you NOT play scared when you start downswinging and you're 50k in debt?

Also, OP's primary problem is that HE IS NOT GOOD AT POKER. What he is doing is basically a reverse form of table selection, where every time he has some money he moves up in limits and ends up facing better players. Being actively bad at table selection will make any player - EV, and it's worse in his case because when he moves up in limits and faces better players, the stakes go up as well.

The worst thing is, his problem isn't even that easy to fix. You can give any fish with an 80 vpip a hand chart, and he'll improve his game immediately. But this guy knows that moving up stakes is wrong, and he still does it anyway. Some people just have too much gamble in them, and that's not a switch that they can just flick on and off.

To OP: Just quit completely. Don't even visit this forum. Good luck with your life. Your family will be upset, but in the end they are your family and will support you through this.