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Old 08-01-2006, 11:16 AM
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Default Re: Phil Helmuth disrespect

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Hellmuth invites the disrespect deliberately with the image he cultivates. I'm sure he understands that.

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What he does is very similar to a WWF verbal stunt.
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Old 08-01-2006, 11:26 AM
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Default Re: Phil Helmuth disrespect

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Hellmuth invites the disrespect deliberately with the image he cultivates. I'm sure he understands that.

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What he does is very similar to a WWF verbal stunt.

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I have sat with people who have sat with him. I won't give direct quotes, but he is not well liked.
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Old 08-01-2006, 11:48 AM
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Phil Helmuth is just such a baby it is hilarious. I love to watch him on TV. As for the people celebrating when he got knocked out, well, hellmuth earned it.

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Helmuth has spent years cultivating the image as the "poker brat". This is his claim to fame. Regardless of what he's "really like", this is the persona that has made him popular. The fact that people cheered when he busted out just means that people still love to hate him. This is the type of reaction that he expects and wants.

Pity him as much as you'd pity the "bad guy" in WWE wrestling.
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Old 08-01-2006, 11:56 AM
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Default Re: Phil Helmuth disrespect

Of course I've never met Hellmuth in person, and I'm sure he's nice to his wife, old ladies, and puppies, but he is a complete [censored] whenever I see him on TV.

He is an insecure jerk who wants everybody to know what a great player he is and what an idiot every other player is. The "this guy can't even spell poker" diatribe was one of the most assholish things I've seen anyone do, and I can't believe he continues to get away with this type of crap.

Great player? Obviously. Deserving of respect? [censored] that.

He is poker's version of Barry Bonds--a serious [censored] with serious game.
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Old 08-01-2006, 11:58 AM
J.A.K. J.A.K. is offline
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Default Re: Phil Helmuth disrespect

I see beratement in every tourney I play. Watching it snowball is a nice subplot between hands. Many posts on this forum berate players ..."villain is a DonkTard..." etc. Beratement can be an effective slap to the face/motivator to improve one's play once the verbal dust settles. I like the open honesty of Hellmuth, saying what everyone thinks (or says to a friend) at one time or another. I have not heard him go over the line once. He is a GREAT HE tourney player with some self esteem issues. His is one of many ecclectic personalities that make poker fun. Don't get me wrong, Lederer,Ferguson and especially Raymer are great ambassadors of Poker but the flavor Hellmuth brings is undeniable.
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Old 08-01-2006, 12:20 PM
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PH does what it takes to get noticed and on TV. He probably makes more $$$ through endorsements, books, dvds, his poker camp, etc than any other player today.

On top of that he is still a top level player, as shown by his final tables, and 10th bracelet this year.

Respect him or not, you can't say he isn't a damn good player.
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Old 08-01-2006, 12:31 PM
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Respect Phil Helmuth or not, you cannot say that chezwiz does not have my alltime favorite avator.
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Old 08-01-2006, 08:00 PM
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Default Re: Phil Helmuth disrespect

i played with him.. he's not that bad

even though he did offer to play me head up for a million after the tournament
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Old 08-01-2006, 08:17 PM
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i played with him.. he's not that bad

even though he did offer to play me head up for a million after the tournament

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what provoked the HU challenge?
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Old 08-01-2006, 08:22 PM
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Default Re: Phil Helmuth disrespect

me beating him in every big pot we played
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