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Old 07-24-2006, 11:10 PM
KenProspero KenProspero is offline
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Default Re: Hellmuth Crushing at the WSOP

Is there anywhere I can get a complete list of who's left?
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Old 07-24-2006, 11:14 PM
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Default Re: Hellmuth Crushing at the WSOP

1. Reading it clearly PF, JJ was re-raised. Unless villain has loose image on the table, the raised indicated AA,KK,AK;
2. Since Phil act first, the call of villain's all-in may indicate Phil put villian on AK but want to get lucky catching J on later street? Pot-odd still doesn't justify?
3. What if Villian acted first on the flop and pushed all-in? Phil still would call?

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another level in his game? please! he is a 9 time WSOP bracelet winner. The only problem Phil has is that he makes more money from all his other deals going on rather than poker. He hasn't "played poker for a living" for sometime now which has seen him play fewer and fewer tournaments. You could say his pokerbrat persona and the money it has made him has hurt his game a bit. He nolonger fully concentrates on winning poker tournaments.

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Yes, when you don't play poker for a living and only think winning will get you extra money for fun, you would play differently.

Remember Chris Moneymakers' 88 all-in on the K9x flop and turned 8 cracked the AA? You can't explain everyhand technically, it has gamble/lucky factors. I think this year's ME winner will have many bad moves at the right time.
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Old 07-24-2006, 11:33 PM
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I think a huge reason Phil is doing so well in the WSOP is he is just better at playing the amateur/chumps than the best pros. his reads are more spot on. When up against the good pros he's the live one (evident by HSP). This is why all these small WSOP events are perfect for him...he's just feasting on these amateur-filled tournaments.
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Old 07-25-2006, 12:16 AM
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I think a huge reason Phil is doing so well in the WSOP is he is just better at playing the amateur/chumps than the best pros. his reads are more spot on. When up against the good pros he's the live one (evident by HSP). This is why all these small WSOP events are perfect for him...he's just feasting on these amateur-filled tournaments.

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Uh-Oh. Common wisdom collision. Ahwoogah, Ahwoogah, Dive Dive!!

According to this board, Phil H. either:

A: Has had trouble winning in recent WSOPs because he is unwilling to take marginal +EV situations against amateurs overplaying their hands. Even though he has the right reads, he doesn't follow through with them.
B: Is having a great WSOP because he is better than most pros at taking advantage of amateurs mistakes. He has the right reads and is taking advantage of them.

Contridiction alert!!

Much more likely situation:

C: Phil H. always has been, and still is, one of the best tournament NLHE players. He hasn't been that successful in recent WSOPs due to varience (which has increased dramatically with larger, donk-filled fields). He is doing well this year because varience has swung back in his direction.
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Old 07-25-2006, 12:22 AM
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I think a huge reason Phil is doing so well in the WSOP is he is just better at playing the amateur/chumps than the best pros. his reads are more spot on. When up against the good pros he's the live one (evident by HSP). This is why all these small WSOP events are perfect for him...he's just feasting on these amateur-filled tournaments.

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this is so completely ridiculous....
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Old 07-25-2006, 12:22 AM
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Much more likely situation:

C: Phil H. always has been, and still is, one of the best tournament NLHE players. He hasn't been that successful in recent WSOPs due to varience (which has increased dramatically with larger, donk-filled fields). He is doing well this year because varience has swung back in his direction.

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this is so true, I'm amazed some people have such a hard time admitting it. the act is for publicity - it's the howard stern philosophy - it doesn't matter if they're tuning in because they like you or because they hate you - as long as they're tuning in. pair that with his skills in holdem tournaments, and you have a f'n gold mine.

the only thing i've ever thought was truly silly about phil was his insistance he can beat the large cash games...everything else he says is either for the cameras or it's true. it's all great tv though.
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Old 07-25-2006, 12:35 AM
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If you played every event at the wsop for 10 years you probably wouldn't even get close to your true ROI
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Old 07-25-2006, 12:45 AM
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Phil has to win a bracelet this year or the whole run in going to be a failure in his eyes.
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Old 07-25-2006, 02:46 AM
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and this could make Phil a very dangerous player

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Yeah, 'cause he's just a harmless little bunny rabbit in eagle's clothing right now.

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Old 07-25-2006, 02:59 AM
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I think a huge reason Phil is doing so well in the WSOP is he is just better at playing the amateur/chumps than the best pros. his reads are more spot on. When up against the good pros he's the live one (evident by HSP). This is why all these small WSOP events are perfect for him...he's just feasting on these amateur-filled tournaments.

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this is so completely ridiculous....

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how is this completely ridiculous? he is the best at reading amateurs..he can make huge laydowns. what part do you think is COMPLETELY ridiculous? you state something but don't counter with anything back. speak up.
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