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Old 07-18-2006, 09:34 PM
candyman718 candyman718 is offline
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Default Re: \"Official\" WSOP Circuit (New Orleans) thread

What do you guys think of Gavin's strategy of calling short stack all-ins with absolute trash. My thinking has always been that I at least had to have something half-way decent. The way it worked out, he gave some players some extra life and drained his stack a bit.
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Old 07-18-2006, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: \"Official\" WSOP Circuit (New Orleans) thread

I missed stack sizes but that 44 preflop all-in call seemed terrible; am I missing something?
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Old 07-18-2006, 09:47 PM
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whenever ivey makes a joke it busts me up.
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Old 07-18-2006, 09:56 PM
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Default Re: \"Official\" WSOP Circuit (New Orleans) thread

"I don't know anybody who plays every hand perfectly...except for Phil Hellmuth."
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Old 07-18-2006, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: \"Official\" WSOP Circuit (New Orleans) thread

were most players drinking at this table? damn. they're playing like it's a home game for 1/2 a million.

oh yeah, and shut up and this stupid side bet. we get.

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Old 07-18-2006, 11:51 PM
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Default Re: \"Official\" WSOP Circuit (New Orleans) thread

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the AJ vs. KK play was a similar vein of thinking. Everyone else at the table was a very short stack when Nordberg had around 300k. gavin was exploiting the payout increases multiple times.



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I understand the thinking here, but do you really want to tangle with the only guy that can really hurt you? Especially when he seems to be running over the table. This seems similar to a hand Phil Gordon mentioned playing earlier in the World Series. He had Ace King and called a big all in bet. He could have folded and continued running over the table, but instead he got caught up in the moment and called only to lose half his chips.

The main lesson is that when things are going well and you are winning lots of small pots, why play a big one unless you have the nuts?
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Old 07-19-2006, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: \"Official\" WSOP Circuit (New Orleans) thread

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the AJ vs. KK play was a similar vein of thinking. Everyone else at the table was a very short stack when Nordberg had around 300k. gavin was exploiting the payout increases multiple times.



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I understand the thinking here, but do you really want to tangle with the only guy that can really hurt you? Especially when he seems to be running over the table. This seems similar to a hand Phil Gordon mentioned playing earlier in the World Series. He had Ace King and called a big all in bet. He could have folded and continued running over the table, but instead he got caught up in the moment and called only to lose half his chips.

The main lesson is that when things are going well and you are winning lots of small pots, why play a big one unless you have the nuts?

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Huge difference between calling an allin and raising allin. Gavin's play here was completely standard.
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Old 07-19-2006, 01:17 AM
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Huge difference between calling an allin and raising allin. Gavin's play here was completely standard.

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Gavin said afterwards that he made a mistake in this pot, that there was no real need to try and run Peter (the only guy that had the chips to hurt him) off his hand when he was so successfully chipping up in smaller pots and taking races against shorties for small percentages of his stack.
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Old 07-19-2006, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: \"Official\" WSOP Circuit (New Orleans) thread

so i heard there was some kind of side bet with gavin smith and prescott?
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Old 07-19-2006, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: \"Official\" WSOP Circuit (New Orleans) thread

Decent episode. Like others have said, we didn't to hear about the "side bet" every 2 or 3 hands. Also, did they need to make the dealer part of the show? Showing an human interest profile is fine, but like the side bet they kept refering the Darryl the dealer every few hands.

That QQ limp hand may have been one of the worst televised poker hands of all time.

Haven't heard anyone mention this yet but several players (Gavin, Allie etc) were drinking at the table. Wonder if this had any effect on the outcome. Would certain hands be played differently? (ex. Gavin's AJs hand, and 44 heads up hand, Allie's T9o hand) Probably not but just throwing it out there.
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