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#21
07-01-2006, 01:51 AM
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Re: whore this, ubersucker
Let's get specific. Take Intercasino's monthly. 2500 WR, Atlantic City BJ. What's the EV, single player, betting $1 a hand? $2 a hand? $5 a hand? $10 a hand?...
Everybody knows their statistics; let's see some numbers. 
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#22
07-01-2006, 04:49 AM
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Re: whore this, ubersucker
[ QUOTE ]
Let's get specific. Take Intercasino's monthly. 2500 WR, Atlantic City BJ. What's the EV, single player, betting $1 a hand? $2 a hand? $5 a hand? $10 a hand?... Everybody knows their statistics; let's see some numbers. [/ QUOTE ] Yes I'd be interested as well. I always thought that you just calculate EV of a bonus using the equation of Bonus amount - (WR*HA), so from that formula the EV shouldn't change based on bet size. I am wrong I guess.
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#23
07-01-2006, 05:17 AM
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Re: whore this, ubersucker
With intercasino it does not matter how much you bet because the Wagering carries over to teh next month.
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#24
07-01-2006, 05:32 AM
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Re: whore this, ubersucker
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With intercasino it does not matter how much you bet because the Wagering carries over to teh next month. [/ QUOTE ] what? if i'm working on the july monthly then i can finish wagering it in august and then start right in on the august one? i don't see why the bet size wouldn't matter though because you still have to meet the WR and if you bet more you can reach it faster. color me confused i guess.
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#25
07-01-2006, 11:21 AM
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Re: whore this, ubersucker
Maybe he was spouting some gibberish regarding hourly rate since playing $100 bucks a hand I play much much quicker than $1 a hand would let me. Regardless, the EV goes up by betting bigger because sometimes you do go busto.
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#26
07-01-2006, 01:08 PM
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Re: whore this, ubersucker
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Kyleb, You are totally wrong. The *only* reason EV increases with an increase in bet size is the increase in busting out before wagering requirements are bet, and hence less wagering at negative EV games. [/ QUOTE ] No. Again, refer to Pascal's Triangle and do a bit of legwork.
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#27
07-01-2006, 06:01 PM
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Re: whore this, ubersucker
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Kyleb, You are totally wrong. The *only* reason EV increases with an increase in bet size is the increase in busting out before wagering requirements are bet, and hence less wagering at negative EV games. [/ QUOTE ] No. Again, refer to Pascal's Triangle and do a bit of legwork. [/ QUOTE ] This looks more like hand-waving than mathematical rigor. "The proof is left to the reader." I don't think proving that bonus EV increases with bet size is a trivial problem. I'd like to see Ed Miller's work on this. Anybody have an approximate date on this infamous thread? And which forum was it in?
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#28
07-01-2006, 08:40 PM
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Re: whore this, ubersucker
It was in Internet Bonuses, but I can't remember the title.
Ed Miller did a good part of the legwork, but it's really a problem that cannot be understood unless you derive the solution yourself.
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#29
07-02-2006, 01:14 AM
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Re: whore this, ubersucker
Jesus Christ, wake up guys.
Who gives a crap about marginal increases in EV? Bigger Bet Sizes drastically increase your HOURLY RATE. This is and always shall be the only thing you should care about!!!!!!!! The end!!!!!!!!
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#30
07-02-2006, 02:20 AM
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Re: whore this, ubersucker
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It was in Internet Bonuses, but I can't remember the title. Ed Miller did a good part of the legwork, but it's really a problem that cannot be understood unless you derive the solution yourself. [/ QUOTE ] Ahhh, just one of those thangs. You either get it or you don't. Did you "derive the solution" yourself before you saw Ed Miller's work? QED
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