Couple hands...

[Chris Daddy Cool]

hand 1, you could raise preflop. but for the river i check-call.

hand 2, wow, i can't believe so many people want to call here. i fold.

hand 3, you could also raise preflop. but this turn is such an easy raise.

[Schizo]

I agree on the turn raise on hand three, but are we betting every river? Is there ever a river card that we don't bet? Assume SB cold calls... again.

[calcbandit]

Hand 1 I like bet-folding better than check folding. Villain is an idiot, and could have anything, really. I don't really like check-fold or check-call because that is a much harder decision than bet-fold. Bet folding minimizes our chances of making a mistake.

Hand 2 I fold the river because even if he c/r the turn with a draw (likely), nearly everything reasonable has paired up. If villain really has nothing like K or Q high I think he would have also bet the turn.

Hand 3 is a raise for value, and to charge villain for whatever stupid draw he is likely to be donking. Getting 3 bet is bad, but not a problem due to the # of outs we have and the strength of our hand.

[Kwaz]

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Hand 3 I'd raise the turn and feel good about it. That was a pretty huge flop and not much has changed.



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actually, our equity has dropped, so quite a bit has changed. i don't see the point in raising here. to clean up T outs? could you elaborate?

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It's because you have the best hand, bob.

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This is where we differ. I don't see this being the case that often.
I also think that when SB folds the turn, our equity will not rise very much at all, if any. I also think that when he calls, he has the better draw or the better hand the majority of the time.
By raising, we also open ourselves up to paying 3BB to see a river in what is a 6BB pot.

I really don't see enough good coming from a raise here. Maybe you could elaborate on your thought process.