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Outstanding. I can't imagine trying to read this when I was 18 or 19. Even at 35, it's still kinda freaking me out.
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What's the point? [/ QUOTE ] This post inspired Apathy and I to engage in a philosophical debate about the meaning of life. We decided the point of life is to get drunk and [censored] bitches, which we are currently doing in Miami while staying with DonButtons. We can also say with certainly we will continue to do this if we win the ME. P.S. Excellent post as always Craig. I always look forward to reading your posts. |
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the point of life is to get drunk and [censored] bitches [/ QUOTE ] This is most certaintly not the point of life. Indy |
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[ QUOTE ] the point of life is to get drunk and [censored] bitches [/ QUOTE ] This is most certaintly not the point of life. Indy [/ QUOTE ] Two chicks at the same time? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] Yugoslav |
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[ QUOTE ] What's the point? [/ QUOTE ] This post inspired Apathy and I to engage in a philosophical debate about the meaning of life. We decided the point of life is to get drunk and [censored] bitches, which we are currently doing in Miami while staying with DonButtons. We can also say with certainly we will continue to do this if we win the ME. P.S. Excellent post as always Craig. I always look forward to reading your posts. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think you get it Good2cu |
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I feel like I understand a little bit about how to find true happiness and I know that the requisite knowledge will not be displayed on a 2001FP [/ QUOTE ] Your post in it's entirety goes some of the way towards proving this one thought wrong. Wonderful post. -Brad |
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to Mike28 and anyone else wrestling with these concepts (myself included) and how poker fits in,
I highly recommend "Ace on the River" by Barry Greenstein. I've just read it and I must say I was quite suprised as to how much time is spent on the philosophy of living life as a professional poker player. the morals and ethics involved and how he feels about taking money from Player 1, 2, and 3 are also covered. As for poker content. I found some irrelevent (as I don't play low ball) and a bit of it over my head mathematically. But many of you would enjoy it. Mostly I think I will reread the sections on how to balance life and poker, and still be a stand up guy. Straight Flushes, SAM |
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The part about how dying people live was very well put and 100% true. When people know they are dying they usually become very sincere, pure of heart, caring, attentive etc. Like you said, we are all dying so I'm going to take that thought with me and try to become a better person.
Great post Irieguy! |
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If a young poker player like Raptor or Good2cu ever got drunk enough to ask me for advice on dropping out of school to play poker, I would encourage them to stay in school. But it isn't because I think there is anything wrong with playing poker for a living, nor is it because I think that getting a college degree is particularly important. It's because I feel like I understand a little bit about how to find true happiness and I know that the requisite knowledge will not be displayed on a 2001FP over streaming video. In order to learn about compassion, come to terms with your own mortality, and develop a sound world view you need experience and interaction with other people. College is more likely to offer directions to this path that the WPT is. [/ QUOTE ] I have a bit of a problem with this. While I agree that the primary benefit of a college eduction is social/interpersonal inderaction development (and knowledge an important secondary benefit), eating, drinking, and breathing poker for two years develops a unique set of interpersonal skill one can't learn in college. In college, everyone is an idiot. That's what happens when you get that many 18-22 year-olds together. The knowledge pathways are clearly defined: you learn first from the professors, then from the grad students. It's easy. If you want knowledge, you get it from your superiors. If you want interpersonal interaction, you go to your peers. Poker is a different set of skills. There are no teachers, underlings, idiots. A player must understand how to learn from everyone. Just in the last 16 months in which I've taken poker as a serious hobby, I've had to re-learn how to learn. I've had to learn from old men, crazy old men, middle-aged doctors, middle-aged computer nerds, middle-aged midwestern businessmen, middle-aged movie producers, middle-aged businesswomen, women (woman actually) I've slept with, chess teachers, punk kid computer nerds, and punk kids who couldn't find my house if I wrote down the directions on a piece of paper and stuffed them in his jacket pocket. Some of these people have been better poker players than I am. Most of them have been worse. I'm not always learning about poker. I've learned [censored] you'll never learn in college, and it's [censored] that if I'd known it in college, it would have made the experience much more worthwhile. College is a great place to learn to interact with your peers, but it's a terrible place to learn how to interact with anyone else. Coming to terms with one's own morality and compassion comes though interacting with the largest possible cross-section of humanity, and I think poker offers this more than college ever could. |
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College is a great place to learn to interact with your peers, but it's a terrible place to learn how to interact with anyone else. Coming to terms with one's own morality and compassion comes though interacting with the largest possible cross-section of humanity, and I think poker offers this more than college ever could. [/ QUOTE ] I think this is a serious stretch, especially if we're playing with online poker. I think your point about college teaching you how to interact with pretty much just your peers is a really solid one, but what cross-section of the world are we really seeing in online poker, and how much are we interacting with them? Not so much, for the most part, on both counts. EDIT: Also, I'd say that the people that one learns from, say, here, constitute a peer group in another fairly valid sense. |
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