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Old 05-05-2006, 11:10 PM
Sharkey Sharkey is offline
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Default Re: $250,000 reward for proving evolution

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... the standard is whatever Hovind will accept ...

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Exactly, which sets the standard indefinitely high, including to whatever height becomes necessary to avoid awarding the prize. Not that I know this to be the intention, but the stated terms don’t rule it out.
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Old 05-05-2006, 11:59 PM
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Default Re: $250,000 reward for proving evolution

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...his definition of what is to be proven does not match any reasonably common statement of the theory of evolution ...

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Just like Sharkey [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-06-2006, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: $250,000 reward for proving evolution

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Exactly, which sets the standard indefinitely high, including to whatever height becomes necessary to avoid awarding the prize.

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Judging by Hovind's other writings, I disagree that "whatever Hovind will accept" implies a high standard. Quite the opposite, it implies no standard exists at all, and judgement will be based on whether the evidence agrees with what Hovind has already decided.
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Old 05-06-2006, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: $250,000 reward for proving evolution

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Exactly, which sets the standard indefinitely high, including to whatever height becomes necessary to avoid awarding the prize.

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Judging by Hovind's other writings, I disagree that "whatever Hovind will accept" implies a high standard. Quite the opposite, it implies no standard exists at all, and judgement will be based on whether the evidence agrees with what Hovind has already decided.

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...just like Sharkey!
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Old 05-06-2006, 12:17 AM
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Default Re: $250,000 reward for proving evolution

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Exactly, which sets the standard indefinitely high, including to whatever height becomes necessary to avoid awarding the prize.

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Judging by Hovind's other writings, I disagree that "whatever Hovind will accept" implies a high standard. Quite the opposite, it implies no standard exists at all, and judgement will be based on whether the evidence agrees with what Hovind has already decided.

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That’s just my point. Such a “no standard at all” DOES NOT EXCLUDE setting however high a standard may be necessary to avoid issuing the prize, regardless of whether there is any intention to do so.
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Old 05-06-2006, 12:45 AM
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Default Re: $250,000 reward for proving evolution

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a “no standard at all” DOES NOT EXCLUDE setting however high a standard

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Your usual way of arguing, Sharkey! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-06-2006, 12:56 AM
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You guys do understand that Sharkey is agreeing that Hovind is a tool, right? Dont let your zeal for disagreeing with Sharkey cloud your reading comprehension skills.
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Old 05-06-2006, 01:03 AM
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vhawk1,

I have no misunderstanding.

It doesn't make his argument (as I quoted) less amusing. On top of it, I think Sharkey does this only to "appear" more reasonable than he really is. Pity, but par for the course, that in his support there is such a glaring fault in his logic. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-06-2006, 01:07 AM
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His argument as you quoted is just gibberish, because you quoted half a sentence entirely out of context. His argument as he presented it makes perfect sense - and as far as I can tell, he's agreeing with you.
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Old 05-06-2006, 01:16 AM
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Thats how I read the thread thus far, guess, and it just seemed like undue Sharkey-bashing to me. There is plenty of cause for Sharkey-bashing...this just isn't it.
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