ZeeJustin the next to get caught multi accounting Party MTTs

[Kristian]

You remind me of Terrell Owens agent.

[PokerGenius]

2+2 should go ahead and publish this. It will sell well, give it a catchy title. The dark secrets of the Internet Poker. Give all the royalties to members who have posted in this thread, including the Zeejustin character

[KaneKungFu123]

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This is an over looked factor. Even if ZJ was paying taxes on all of these winnings, its possible that he has been paying them in 6 different names, which would make his taxes signifcantly less then they should be because of the escalating tax rate.

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Are you saying ZJ also has 6 SSN#? Although possible and is being done, he would really be stepping on the toes of the Feds. Could be the dumbest of the dumb ideas.

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No. I am saying that he is paying taxes in his family or friends name because his account is in their name. So if he pays taxes on 50K 6 times, it is substantially less then paying taxes on 300k once.

[KlumsySmurf]

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All,

This is an over looked factor. Even if ZJ was paying taxes on all of these winnings, its possible that he has been paying them in 6 different names, which would make his taxes signifcantly less then they should be because of the escalating tax rate.

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Are you saying ZJ also has 6 SSN#? Although possible and is being done, he would really be stepping on the toes of the Feds. Could be the dumbest of the dumb ideas.

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No. I am saying that he is paying taxes in his family or friends name because his account is in their name. So if he pays taxes on 50K 6 times, it is substantially less then paying taxes on 300k once.

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I'm sure he tortures small animals and rapes children too. Jesus christ guys, give the guy a break. On a scale of 1-10, 1 being jaywalking and 10 being murdering baby penguins, multi-accounting mtt's rates a 3.5. The fact is a LOT of people did this and didn't realize that it was/is cheating. Most of them have obviously stopped now due to a few examples being set. That is probably good for poker, but all this hatred towards a few select people is just stupid. He made a mistake, he paid the price. It's done.

[Brando]

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I'm sure he tortures small animals and rapes children too. Jesus christ guys, give the guy a break. On a scale of 1-10, 1 being jaywalking and 10 being murdering baby penguins, multi-accounting mtt's rates a 3.5. The fact is a LOT of people did this and didn't realize that it was/is cheating. Most of them have obviously stopped now due to a few examples being set. That is probably good for poker, but all this hatred towards a few select people is just stupid. He made a mistake, he paid the price. It's done.

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Someone he knocked out of a tournament with one of his SIX accounts may have gone on to win the tournament otherwise. That is a possible 100k that he cheated someone out of. Cheating someone out of 100k is a 3.5 on a scale of 1 to 10?

Interesting.

"Most of them have obviously stopped now"? Really? Obvious to whom? I don't find that obvious at all. I'd say that cheaters are still cheating, just being more cautious about it by not using the same IP for the multi accounts, and in fact, It's possible the amount of cheaters has increased. People who would do it, but never thought of the idea, might be buying an extra laptop or two to get cracking.

He didn't "make a mistake." Dialing your grandma instead of your cousin's phone number because you weren't really paying attention is a mistake. Entering multiple accounts in a tournament to up your edge by cheating is purposeful.

Did you even think as you were typing?

Being an apologist here isn't really as Solomon-like as you may think.

[authority11]

So what is stopping people from buying 5 piece of crap laptops for dirt cheap for the sole purpose of 5 tabling MTT's on 5 diff accts?

[August West]

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Someone he knocked out of a tournament with one of his SIX accounts may have gone on to win the tournament otherwise. That is a possible 100k that he cheated someone out of. Cheating someone out of 100k is a 3.5 on a scale of 1 to 10?



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Still none of those "extra" accounts won big. So someone else ended up with the 100K. So yeah, it could have effected someone individually, but the money was still distributed out to the community and not to ZJ. More a roll of the dice. At this point your statement is highly hypothetical. My feeling is most of the people who are really irate are not good players and looking for someone to blame for their losses. "If he didn't play, I would have won." I find that scenario highly unlikely. They probably would have lost anyway.

[ptmusic]

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Someone he knocked out of a tournament with one of his SIX accounts may have gone on to win the tournament otherwise. That is a possible 100k that he cheated someone out of. Cheating someone out of 100k is a 3.5 on a scale of 1 to 10?



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Still none of those "extra" accounts won big. So someone else ended up with the 100K. So yeah, it could have effected someone individually, but the money was still distributed out to the community and not to ZJ. More a roll of the dice. At this point your statement is highly hypothetical. My feeling is most of the people who are really irate are not good players and looking for someone to blame for their losses. "If he didn't play, I would have won." I find that scenario highly unlikely. They probably would have lost anyway.

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That's stupid--everyone probably would have lost anyway. The ones who lost the a cheater have a legitimate complaint.

[RFJ]

I've been reading some post and I just love how some idiot defend someone like ZeeJustin. If you're the one getting cheated you wouldn't be defending him. You'd be asking for your money. I used to play a lot of step higher games and ZeeJustin , IBLUFFUOUT69, and mehsab are all familiar names to me. After giving up because of many many failed attempts. I stop playing those games because I felt it was rigged. I didn't know how people were making some donkey plays and still come out on top on the leader boards. I followed some of them around and looked at some of the hands they tried to steal with. Some rediculous hands. Recently about a month ago I started playing the step games again. For about 2 weeks now I see fewer and fewer people playing these games..I didn't know the reason till now!! For people that don't know what a step game is. It's 1st or nothing. That's why it's so hard. Back then 1st place was 25k for step 5.

Boo hoo. They confiscated 100k. They should have confiscated a whole lot more. I know from the step games and sngs..he probably made a whole lot more than that measly 100k and lived a life a luxury.

There is a reason why it's hard to win tournaments and sngs..because the blinds are always increasing you need to pick a spot to move all in more than once. If you have two position spots already filled...Then's it's so much easier to get rid of the 3rd person..Some fracked up **** like I didn't chip dump. Thats a load of bologne. Anytime you get a 6 sided dice and you can take two sides while other players can choose only one. You got twice the advantage of other players.

When I was playing at the Bicycle Casino. I saw one guy go all in on the first hand because he wanted to establish a big chip lead on the first hand. He was a regular too. After going out. He went back to the buy in counter and asked for another seat. The tournament director came right up to him and said "Robert you know the deal! Once your out your out! If I allow you to re enter the tourmanent it gives you an unfair advantage"

I've gone to level 4s and 3s on the step higher games and still have a level 4 chip..Even a 5% disadvantage is a lot in a winner take all tournament, but having two seats on a sng table is way more than that..

[Indiana]

If u think I'm an idiot for showing a little understanding, there's always a HU match waiting for u big boy. Show me what an idiot I am on the felt.

PM me,

Indy