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Old 08-21-2007, 01:24 PM
Speel Posher Speel Posher is offline
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Default Re: Brag: My buddy killed a guy who tried to rob his party

damn op that is pretty badass. I wish i could have done it.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: Brag: My buddy killed a guy who tried to rob his party

To anyone and everyone who's questioning why he had the gun on him, LDO.

I'm from Texas originally, and while I was there, the ONLY time my gun left my back was during church. You carry your gun(protection) at all times because IF something happens, it's there. Criminals don't call to make sure you're not having a party so they can rob you. They don't make appointments. You keep that bitch loaded and ready at all times. That piece of trash got less than what he deserved, really. I probably would have shot dude #2, too.....but then again, I'm Texan. I have no way of knowing if he's armed or not until the autopsy.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:41 PM
Poker_is_Hard Poker_is_Hard is offline
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Jesus Christ; the non-American pussies in this thread remind me why I am still proud to be American.

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Yahoooo Ricky Bobby, you tell um. Lets go drink some beers, shoot some [censored], and vote for rich oil kids from TX.

If you have to take a life to defend another.... you do what you have to do. It is not something I would be proud of or happy to commit.
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: Brag: My buddy killed a guy who tried to rob his party

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What do I do when I get robbed (happened twice so far)? Either I give them whatever money I have on me or I run. No, I didn't wish I had a gun on me so I could kill them.

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That's all well and good, but what happens the one time that the robber for some reason decides he'd rather not leave any witnesses?

This is why I'd try to get a permit to carry a gun if I lived in the US. I'd hope to never have to use it, and there's many situations where it would be unwise to do so, but at some point there may not be any other choice.

I'd probably just try to co-operate if the guy had just burst in and told everyone to get down, but when he takes a hostage that elevates the situation to a whole new level.

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Why do so many Europeans think that Americans like guns (movies?) and that it is easy to have a permit to carry one?

It's not, every state has it's own laws to be sure. The only Second Amendment BS you hear about is from the militia owners in Michigan.

Very small, and very poor, sample size.

To get a permit in Ohio is wholly impossible, unless you word for the police or the FBI. In Florida, same story. In California, they make an exception for you if you have tons of money, are an armed body guard, or a celebrity. To get this permit is very very expensive and takes a very long time to take the classes.

Texas is a rare example of allowing this sort of stuff.

Interesting to note that my friends from England are surprised to know that many Americans do not own guns, that guns are, in fact, illegal, and that most Americans stand against gun use.

Just wanted to clear that up.
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: Brag: My buddy killed a guy who tried to rob his party

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Jesus Christ; the non-American pussies in this thread remind me why I am still proud to be American.

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Yahoooo Ricky Bobby, you tell um. Lets go drink some beers, shoot some [censored], and vote for rich oil kids from TX.

If you have to take a life to defend another.... you do what you have to do. It is not something I would be proud of or happy to commit.

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I want to shoot you so bad right now
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:26 PM
Poker_is_Hard Poker_is_Hard is offline
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Jesus Christ; the non-American pussies in this thread remind me why I am still proud to be American.

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Yahoooo Ricky Bobby, you tell um. Lets go drink some beers, shoot some [censored], and vote for rich oil kids from TX.

If you have to take a life to defend another.... you do what you have to do. It is not something I would be proud of or happy to commit.

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I want to shoot you so bad right now

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Thank God there is a Nascar race today to give you something to do. RIP Dale....
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:39 PM
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He crossed the line, he died. He deserved it. I doubt it was his first time and I doubt it would be his last.

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This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. First time dying or crossing the line? And you doubt it's his last time dying or crossing the line? I don't get it. Explain please.
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:40 PM
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To get a permit in Ohio is wholly impossible, unless you word for the police or the FBI. In Florida, same story. In California, they make an exception for you if you have tons of money, are an armed body guard, or a celebrity. To get this permit is very very expensive and takes a very long time to take the classes.



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I live in Florida and have a permit to carry. While I am pro gun, your statement is very incorrect. In Florida you just need to take a class for a few hours and not have any felony convictions. I wouldn't call that wholly impossible or even remotely difficult.
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: Brag: My buddy killed a guy who tried to rob his party

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What do I do when I get robbed (happened twice so far)? Either I give them whatever money I have on me or I run. No, I didn't wish I had a gun on me so I could kill them.

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That's all well and good, but what happens the one time that the robber for some reason decides he'd rather not leave any witnesses?

This is why I'd try to get a permit to carry a gun if I lived in the US. I'd hope to never have to use it, and there's many situations where it would be unwise to do so, but at some point there may not be any other choice.

I'd probably just try to co-operate if the guy had just burst in and told everyone to get down, but when he takes a hostage that elevates the situation to a whole new level.

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Why do so many Europeans think that Americans like guns (movies?) and that it is easy to have a permit to carry one?

It's not, every state has it's own laws to be sure. The only Second Amendment BS you hear about is from the militia owners in Michigan.

Very small, and very poor, sample size.

To get a permit in Ohio is wholly impossible, unless you word for the police or the FBI. In Florida, same story. In California, they make an exception for you if you have tons of money, are an armed body guard, or a celebrity. To get this permit is very very expensive and takes a very long time to take the classes.

Texas is a rare example of allowing this sort of stuff.

Interesting to note that my friends from England are surprised to know that many Americans do not own guns, that guns are, in fact, illegal, and that most Americans stand against gun use.

Just wanted to clear that up.

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This is absolutely false. Guns are not illegal in ANY state in the union, even pansy Ohio.
I haven't the slightest idea whether Ohioans have given up their right to bear arms to the extent that it is difficult to obtain a CONCEALED WEAPONS PERMIT (wouldn't surprise me) but I can tell you that a concealed weapons permit is easy to get in pretty every western state for non-felons (save california, which is really more european than europe) as well as most most of the mid west and south. There has never once, in any poll, been close to a majority of Americans who believed in altering the second amendment. Anyone that believes otherwise could review the long history of defeated legislation attempting to take away the right to bear arms over the last 20 years. And the simple fact is that this situation is the one that many americans find unacceptable, and believe that they ought to be allowed to defend themselves against intruders in their own home.

Additionally, this was a situation in which an intruder entered a homestead. It has nothing to do with the right to conceal a gun in public. I assume even in pansy Ohio a non-felon is still allowed to own a gun for protection, and possess it his own home.
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:41 PM
ChoicestHops ChoicestHops is offline
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I doubt it was his first time putting a gun to someone's head threatening to end their life if he doesn't get something that he wants. And I doubt that would be his last time either if he hadn't died.

Yeah that didn't make much sense at all [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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