WSOP Main Event Day 3 Thread

[Smarty]

In 4th right now is Matt Woodward, one of the four members of the infamous Dreamclown.

[Quicksilvre]

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Why did he do it?

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Post-bubble friskiness.

[Kevmath]

140 players gone the first 15 minutes. If so, they're already at the 16k level of payouts.

[xxx]

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Negreanu's Stack Dented
On a flop of J98, Daniel Negreanu bets $12,000 and Chris Combs calls. The turn is the 3 and Negreanu shoots out again with $18,000. Combs calls and the river puts the 10 on the board. Negreanu pushes all-in, having Combs well covered and Combs calles all-in, showing J10 for top two pair. Negreanu shows 108 for a worse two pair and Combs rakes in the pot to double up to $130,000. Negreanu's stack is now down to $158,000.

Imho, that's a horrible play by Daniel.
No worse hand calls while he doesn't need to bluff cause 2 pairs have a showdown value.
Wouldn't check (to induce a bluff as well) - call be much better?
I doubt he is getting any value from just one pair, especially with the all in.
Why did he do it?

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Combs must have had ~60k at the start of the hand since he just doubled up. With the 2 bets they mentioned in CP, there would be 60k in the pot, with Combs having ~30k behind, so it was only about a half pot bet by Daniel. It would actually be less if the preflop action was taken into account (CP ignores it).

So it looks like this was just a value bet, and top pair would have a tough time folding getting better than 2:1.

[Black winter day]

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Negreanu's Stack Dented
On a flop of J98, Daniel Negreanu bets $12,000 and Chris Combs calls. The turn is the 3 and Negreanu shoots out again with $18,000. Combs calls and the river puts the 10 on the board. Negreanu pushes all-in, having Combs well covered and Combs calles all-in, showing J10 for top two pair. Negreanu shows 108 for a worse two pair and Combs rakes in the pot to double up to $130,000. Negreanu's stack is now down to $158,000.

Imho, that's a horrible play by Daniel.
No worse hand calls while he doesn't need to bluff cause 2 pairs have a showdown value.
Wouldn't check (to induce a bluff as well) - call be much better?
I doubt he is getting any value from just one pair, especially with the all in.
Why did he do it?

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Because it might be good, and there is a good chance he can get JT, J9, J8, and T9 to fold.

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If it's good the villain won't call the all-in on a 4 to a straight board.
And that board could have hit so much hands (not mentioning the fact the the opponent could have the straight) with sets, better 2 pairs that are tough to laydown (unless he had a read that the guy is a total nit, but his call without the straight suggests otherwise).
I really don't see the need to do it.
Bad play imho.

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Combs must have had ~60k at the start of the hand since he just doubled up. With the 2 bets they mentioned in CP, there would be 60k in the pot, with Combs having ~30k behind, so it was only about a half pot bet by Daniel. It would actually be less if the preflop action was taken into account (CP ignores it).

So it looks like this was just a value bet, and top pair would have a tough time folding getting better than 2:1.

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this is not a vb..and top pair having trouble calling off all his chips on this board? dude no. easy fold

[Stealthy]

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After a flop of Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], a player in the cut off position moves all-in for $20,600. Allen Cunningham on the button thinks for a few moments and makes the call showing A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. The cut-off shows J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and says "Good read" to Cunningham. The turn is a 10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and the river is 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] give the other player a flush. Cunningham is down to $365,000

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Damn those decks with 2 t [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

[Suedehead]

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Imho, that's a horrible play by Daniel.
No worse hand calls while he doesn't need to bluff cause 2 pairs have a showdown value.


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I'm guessing ~$20k in the pot on the flop (Daniel bet 12k), 24k goes in on flop, 36k on turn. So $80k in there on the river, final pot was $130k. The guy is getting $105k to $25k on the river call. Worse hands than Daniel's will probably call the river bet but will never bluff, so I think he's correct to bet the river.

[Kevmath]

More in the money finishes:

820 - Paul Mannoni
821 - Fred Lavassani
822 - Mark Rasmussen
823 - Morten Lokken
824 - Joe Everett
825 - Bryan Sandrock
826 - currently unknown
827 - Vitaly Lunkin
828 - George Watson
829 - Robert Enfield
830 - David Hamilton
831 - Bennard Thung
832 - Ashig Abdullah
833 - Roger Mason
834 - Dan Schlauch
835 - Brian Riley
836 - Michael Lee
837 - Joseph M. Cappello
838 - Steven Choi
839 - Ed Latif
840 - Rick Middleton
841 - Kyung Han
842 - Gary Margolis
843 - Scott Miller
844 - Ernesto Panno
845 - Kjetil Flatnes
846 - Morton Lerbrekk
847 - Chris Convery
848 - Doug Dearborn
849 - currently unknown
850 - Nam Le
851 - Vince Deluco
852 - Steven Dubin
853 - Barny Boatman
854 - Paul McCaffrey
855 - Donna Wilson
856 - Jim Olson
857 - currently unknown
858 - Paul F. Smith
859 - Thomas Adams
860 - Greg Myers

[Black winter day]

Molina Takes Out Another
Seat 5 raises in late position to $9,000 and Eric Molina says "I'm tired of you raising like you've been all day. I'm all-in." Seat 5 calls and turns over AJ, Molina KJ. The flop comes 732, which gives Molina a club draw along with any King in the deck. The turn is the K placing Molina in the lead with a pair of Kings. The river is the J and Molina eliminates his opponent with a King high flush. After the hand is over the rest of the table tells Molina that his opponent didn't raise any hands. He actually only had played 3 hands all day including the elimination hand. Molina laughs and says, "Oh well, I won the hand and that's all that matters." Molina now is at $300,000.

And i wonder why they say the tournament poker is mostly about luck?

This guy is gonna win it.