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View Poll Results: What is your ptbb/100?
<3 6 12.77%
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4-5 7 14.89%
5-6 9 19.15%
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>10 2 4.26%
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:50 AM
Mike Kelley Mike Kelley is offline
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Default Re: *** Official October Chat Thread: The Purple Goose ***

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MTT's can definitely be frustrating, but good showing anyways. I'm not sure I would have pushed the A3 there, but that's just my thinking.

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It was close. I was short and he opened CO. Also thought that there is a chance he gives me a little more credit since its near a money bubble.

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imo a weak Ace is not the best hand to resteal with. you are better off restealing in that situation with 2 medium rank cards, like a T8. This way if you do get called you are less likely to be dominated by a bigger ace or a low to medium pp.

Nice job nonetheless outlasting 2500 people.

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this is wrong btw, very common myth though.

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Because the weak ace has the 30% equity against TT-KK, and they folds ATo or less there probably. amirite?
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: *** Official October Chat Thread: The Purple Goose ***

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MTT's can definitely be frustrating, but good showing anyways. I'm not sure I would have pushed the A3 there, but that's just my thinking.

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It was close. I was short and he opened CO. Also thought that there is a chance he gives me a little more credit since its near a money bubble.

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imo a weak Ace is not the best hand to resteal with. you are better off restealing in that situation with 2 medium rank cards, like a T8. This way if you do get called you are less likely to be dominated by a bigger ace or a low to medium pp.

Nice job nonetheless outlasting 2500 people.

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this is wrong btw, very common myth though.

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Because the weak ace has the 30% equity against TT-KK, and they folds ATo or less there probably. amirite?

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even if the dont fold ATo, they call w/ hands like KQ/KJ sometimes, which AX is ahead of. but yeah you pretty much nailed it
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:07 AM
Mike Kelley Mike Kelley is offline
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Default Re: *** Official October Chat Thread: The Purple Goose ***

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 36.467% 35.18% 01.28% 730190820 26619360.00 { A3o }
Hand 1: 63.533% 62.25% 01.28% 1291882908 26619360.00 { 99+, AJs+, KJs+, AJo+, KJo+ }

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 29.941% 29.67% 00.27% 688896168 6288474.00 { T8o }
Hand 1: 70.059% 69.79% 00.27% 1620411108 6288474.00 { 99+, AJs+, KJs+, AJo+, KJo+ }



Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 30.921% 30.63% 00.29% 692235708 6654486.00 { T9o }
Hand 1: 69.079% 68.78% 00.29% 1554696600 6654486.00 { 99+, AJs+, KJs+, AJo+, KJo+ }
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:26 AM
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Default Re: *** Official October Chat Thread: The Purple Goose ***

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Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 36.467% 35.18% 01.28% 730190820 26619360.00 { A3o }
Hand 1: 63.533% 62.25% 01.28% 1291882908 26619360.00 { 99+, AJs+, KJs+, AJo+, KJo+ }

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 29.941% 29.67% 00.27% 688896168 6288474.00 { T8o }
Hand 1: 70.059% 69.79% 00.27% 1620411108 6288474.00 { 99+, AJs+, KJs+, AJo+, KJo+ }



Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 30.921% 30.63% 00.29% 692235708 6654486.00 { T9o }
Hand 1: 69.079% 68.78% 00.29% 1554696600 6654486.00 { 99+, AJs+, KJs+, AJo+, KJo+ }

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He calls all pairs in that spot I'm pretty sure. At the very minimum he's calling 77+ imo.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:29 AM
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Default Re: *** Official October Chat Thread: The Purple Goose ***

A3o is still = or &gt; than T8 or T9 vs 77+
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:33 AM
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A3o is still = or &gt; than T8 or T9 vs 77+

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I know. I'm the one that made the play that is getting flack here. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] Just saying that his calling range is a little wider than was posted especially given that he was probably the second most active player at the table and had an above average stack. I thought about this play a long time while trying to fall asleep last night and still think it was fine.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:59 AM
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Default Re: *** Official October Chat Thread: The Purple Goose ***

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for any micro ballers that get depressed just think it could always be worse, you could be this guy:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=0#Post12647148

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Heh.. I did something like this a part of a prop. $2500 in 6 months w/o buy-in. Easy money, but a severe waste of time. Still confused as to why people buy play chips, but glad they bought mine. I don't think I could have stomached freeroll MTTs to get the seed money.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:25 PM
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Default Re: *** Official October Chat Thread: The Purple Goose ***

lol sobrao boy is my fav 2/4 reg
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: *** Official October Chat Thread: The Purple Goose ***

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MTT's can definitely be frustrating, but good showing anyways. I'm not sure I would have pushed the A3 there, but that's just my thinking.

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I guess this is why I'm no good at MTTs... Anyone want to stake me??

It was close. I was short and he opened CO. Also thought that there is a chance he gives me a little more credit since its near a money bubble.

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imo a weak Ace is not the best hand to resteal with. you are better off restealing in that situation with 2 medium rank cards, like a T8. This way if you do get called you are less likely to be dominated by a bigger ace or a low to medium pp.

Nice job nonetheless outlasting 2500 people.

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this is wrong btw, very common myth though.

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Because the weak ace has the 30% equity against TT-KK, and they folds ATo or less there probably. amirite?

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even if the dont fold ATo, they call w/ hands like KQ/KJ sometimes, which AX is ahead of. but yeah you pretty much nailed it

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Old 10-29-2007, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: *** Official October Chat Thread: The Purple Goose ***

lol this is unbelievable
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