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Frenzy. So far I have not been disappointed by Hitchcock, not even once. Frenzy is another great film by the great master of suspense. With suspense, I usually think there is a murder and you don't know who the murderer is, but in this movie you know who the murderer is, the suspense comes in whether he will be caught or not. Although the murderer is not the main character, as the main character is the person that is being pursued by the police (thinking he is the murderer). I liked the movie a lot and it was fun seeing Hitchcock return to the UK to film a movie.
I also went to the local movie theater and watched a French movie I knew nothing about. The movie is called "Combien tu m'aimes?", imdb translates it to How Much Do You Love Me?. The movie was very weird and not very entertaining. I have no idea what the director was trying to say and I am not sure I want to know. The only plus is that Monica Belluci is so beautiful that you can stand watching the full 95 minutes without walking away. |
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Good post, Rothko. I think there's always a tendency to simplify things in order to talk about them more easily, but far worse, in order to think about them more easily. Short-cut thinking. A number of the things you pointed out in the film were every bit as much an important part of the film as the LOLZ he'z a nutjob! part that we can all find and instantly relate to. I think it's clear that Herzog both admired this guy's passion and ability as a filmmaker AND found him dangerously deluded and willing to pull other people into his delusion after him -- like the girlfriend he also endangers and eventually gets killed.
It's clear Timothy was a complex guy, and if we use reductionism on him to write him off in a quick or snarky few words, we're communicating the reduction of our own understanding into the trivial. And, I'd guess, maybe showing a little fear of our own difficulties in understanding. |
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rothko I saw nothing wrong with the guy throwning rocks at the bear. It kept trying to come towards them (likely because Treadwell had gotten it used to humans) The people were less used to bears and probably felt threatened. Even if it was just a cub because pretty much everyone has been told not to get between a cub and it's mother. I think a lot of the taunting of Treadwell was in his own warped mind. How paranoid do you have to be to read that smiley face on the rock as a seriously scary threat? Also people stack rocks all over the place. In Canada it's just copying the Inuit In Alaska it's probably the same thing. [/ QUOTE ] I think you're being a little naive on both counts. |
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I found Frenzy borderline despicable in that it seemed to revel in some of the pain of its characters. It does have an absolutely brilliant sequence, however, that has, like so much of Hitchcock, been lifted by others since then -- the long tracking shot out from the silent, lonely death site deep in the apartment building to the noisy, lively street outside, from where the tragedy seems not only invisible and silent but irrelevant. One of his lesser films by a long shot, to me, but still with moments of characteristic brilliance.
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naive? Please explain what is naive about throwing a rock at an approaching wild animal to scare it away. Please explain what is threating about a smiley face or a pile of rocks? Treadwell seemed to think everything anyone did was about him. Probably some people that came there didn't know who he was or that he was even there.
As to your other point. Of course Treadwell was as complex a personality as anyone else on the planet. Based solely on the video Herzog provides it is impossible to come up with an accurate psychological profile. If I had to make an assesment with only that evidence though, I would say Treadwell was more paranoid than most, more anti-social than most, less confident in his sexuality than most and flat out whackier than most. edit: hopefully this didn't come off too confrontational. wrote it in a hurry as I just finished my poker session and have to get ready to drive the gf to work and then go to a hockey game. later fyodor |
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As I recall, it was very clear from the context that the guys who left the rocks knew who they were leaving them for. I fail to see how this wasn't creepy.
Also, I think you are giving the hunters way too much benefit of the doubt. I've heard of staying out of the way of bear cubs, but attacking them? This seems like being on the far side of probable responses from people who give a darn. I didn't get a good vibe from those guys at all. If there is any guessing as to their motivations to be done, I think you're doing at least as much as anyone could. Which leaves less than firm ground to criticize on anyone else's extrapolations, including Treadwell's. |
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I watched Garden State today.
It was okay, and I'm filing under that breed of melancholy, slightly depressed American movie that you see now and again in the last 3-4 years. Stuff like The Good Girl, Napoleon Dynamite, and maybe even Donnie Darko and Rushmore. |
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Didn't like Garden State, it was too juvenile for me.. but I really enjoyed The Good Girl.
Saw "Labyrinth" with Jennifer Connelly today.. first time seeing it.. it was cheesy but kinda fun at the same time, and David Bowie's song and dance numbers were hilarious. There are much better nostalgic fantasy tales around though. |
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Frenzy. So far I have not been disappointed by Hitchcock, not even once. Frenzy is another great film by the great master of suspense. With suspense, I usually think there is a murder and you don't know who the murderer is, but in this movie you know who the murderer is, the suspense comes in whether he will be caught or not. Although the murderer is not the main character, as the main character is the person that is being pursued by the police (thinking he is the murderer). I liked the movie a lot and it was fun seeing Hitchcock return to the UK to film a movie. [/ QUOTE ] I loveeee Frenzy.. Hitchcock hasn't dissapointed me once yet either, though I haven't seen stuff like Topaz or Family Plot, among others. |
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I watched Garden State today. It was okay, and I'm filing under that breed of melancholy, slightly depressed American movie that you see now and again in the last 3-4 years. Stuff like The Good Girl, Napoleon Dynamite, and maybe even Donnie Darko and Rushmore. [/ QUOTE ] I share these sentiments precisely. The movie just didn't really appeal to me after all the hype I had heard. Truth betold, I actually liked The Last Kiss with Zach Braff a lot more than I liked Garden State. --- I watched Along came a Spider again on tv a couple nights ago. I love James Patterson despite only reading 3 of his trillion novels. The movie seems to get less interesting with each viewing. I guess this shouldn't surprised me based on the type of novel it's modeled after. |
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