Peyton Manning, Greatest QB of all time?

[Kneel B4 Zod]

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Also Brady isn't right now and has never been the second best QB in the NFL.

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if the NFL exploded and the 32 NFL GM's got to pick a player to start their franchise for next year (or the next 3 years), I think it would go something like this:

21 of them would take Manning #1
7 of them would take Brady #1
3 would take some other QB #1
Matt Millen would take Reggie Wayne

[pryor15]

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If John Starks didn't choke in game 7 of the NBA finals in 1994, then please explain how he made 2 of those 18 shots he attempted. I mean a choker would have missed all 18.

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he got lucky?

[Pudge714]

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Also Brady isn't right now and has never been the second best QB in the NFL.

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if the NFL exploded and the 32 NFL GM's got to pick a player to start their franchise for next year (or the next 3 years), I think it would go something like this:

21 of them would take Manning #1
7 of them would take Brady #1
3 would take some other QB #1
Matt Millen would take Reggie Wayne

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That doesn't change the fact that Brady has never been the second best QB in the NFL.

[bottomset]

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Clutch exists

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yep

Brady clutch is getting the defense to score a TD, force 3other turnovers

Manning gets 0 defensive points and 0-1 turnover

its scientific

[Kneel B4 Zod]

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Also Brady isn't right now and has never been the second best QB in the NFL.

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if the NFL exploded and the 32 NFL GM's got to pick a player to start their franchise for next year (or the next 3 years), I think it would go something like this:

21 of them would take Manning #1
7 of them would take Brady #1
3 would take some other QB #1
Matt Millen would take Reggie Wayne

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That doesn't change the fact that Brady has never been the second best QB in the NFL.

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it doesn't change the fact that you don't think he's 2nd best, but I'll take 32 NFL GM's player evaluation skills over yours.

[capone0]

I get what your saying but where or what article says this?

[Pudge714]

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Also Brady isn't right now and has never been the second best QB in the NFL.

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if the NFL exploded and the 32 NFL GM's got to pick a player to start their franchise for next year (or the next 3 years), I think it would go something like this:

21 of them would take Manning #1
7 of them would take Brady #1
3 would take some other QB #1
Matt Millen would take Reggie Wayne

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That doesn't change the fact that Brady has never been the second best QB in the NFL.

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it doesn't change the fact that you don't think he's 2nd best, but I'll take 32 NFL GM's player evaluation skills over yours.

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Football Outsiders agrees with me .

[Kneel B4 Zod]

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Also Brady isn't right now and has never been the second best QB in the NFL.

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if the NFL exploded and the 32 NFL GM's got to pick a player to start their franchise for next year (or the next 3 years), I think it would go something like this:

21 of them would take Manning #1
7 of them would take Brady #1
3 would take some other QB #1
Matt Millen would take Reggie Wayne

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That doesn't change the fact that Brady has never been the second best QB in the NFL.

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it doesn't change the fact that you don't think he's 2nd best, but I'll take 32 NFL GM's player evaluation skills over yours.

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Football Outsiders agrees with me .

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I wonder why those guys don't run NFL teams. seems like that would be better than running fo.com.

[Assani Fisher]

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Cliff Notes of Every Assani Thread
Assani takes an stupid stance on some issue
Other people make fun of him
Assani says nice intelligent debate.


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Saying that Brady is #1 and Manning is #2 is hardly that crazy of a stance. A good deal of people believe that including many GMs and scouts. I fail to see how my stance is that outlandish.

[Kneel B4 Zod]

Pudge in 3/6 years since 2001, Jake Plummer has finished higher in DPAR than Tom Brady. I guess that means it's pretty much a toss-up between these 2 guys?