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check/call 1 8.33%
bet/call 5 41.67%
bet/3b 5 41.67%
check/raise 1 8.33%
bet/fold (NITS) 0 0%
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Old 10-28-2007, 10:47 PM
Dr_Jeckyl_00 Dr_Jeckyl_00 is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $55.80
Hero (CO): $62.20
BTN: $54.85
SB: $145.65
BB: $16.40

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $1.50, BB folds

Flop: ($4) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $4</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, SB calls $10

Turn: ($32) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $25</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $50</font>, Hero calls $21.45 and is All-In

River: ($124.90) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Is this standard? On the flop he could have AQ, set of 7's or 5's or 86s. I still can't tell when are you suppose to go broke with a overpair and when you aren't suppose to. The turn is a good card because no straight hit. Probably raise more on the flop?

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looks good to me, but I'm still learning
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Old 10-29-2007, 02:46 AM
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Default AA hand, call river lead?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($109.40)
Hero ($174)
Button ($139.25)
SB ($35)
BB ($156.90)
UTG ($41.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, UTG calls $8.

Turn: ($27.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($27.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $17</font>

Villain is 53/3/1.4 over 75 hands.
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Old 10-29-2007, 02:51 AM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Default Re: AA hand, call river lead?

These games are always hyper aggressive.
Button is 23/19, not worried about SB.
If SB doesn't call, I fold here.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($200)
MP ($276.80)
CO ($357.10)
Button ($203)
SB ($228.90)
Hero ($243.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, Button raises to $7, SB calls $6, Hero raises to $32...
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Old 10-29-2007, 02:53 AM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Default But I have a ton of equity...

I've been in a few of these spots lately, you play the same?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($51.20)
Hero ($120.50)
UTG ($131.90)
MP ($69.05)
CO ($110.30)
Button ($129.20)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $2.50, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($9) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $3</font>, Hero calls $3, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $13</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $120.5 (All-In)</font>, CO calls $94.30 (All-In).
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Old 10-29-2007, 02:55 AM
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Default Re: AA hand, call river lead?

In general someone help me, my first 30k cash hands went well in a mix of 25$ and $50nl winning 6bb/100. Now the next 30k hands have been losing / break even.

Im too acustom to 25 tabling sngs and playing like a super nit except bubble. Hence my pt stats over 60k hands 13/10. Any general words for a sng donk trying to make the switch over to cash?
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:34 AM
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Default Re: AA hand, call river lead?

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In general someone help me, my first 30k cash hands went well in a mix of 25$ and $50nl winning 6bb/100. Now the next 30k hands have been losing / break even.

Im too acustom to 25 tabling sngs and playing like a super nit except bubble. Hence my pt stats over 60k hands 13/10. Any general words for a sng donk trying to make the switch over to cash?

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What level SNGs did you play and what's your bankroll?
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:16 AM
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Default Re: AA hand, call river lead?

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Im too acustom to 25 tabling sngs and playing like a super nit except bubble. Hence my pt stats over 60k hands 13/10. Any general words for a sng donk trying to make the switch over to cash?

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Raise more - when in position.

Also raise any PP, and much Axs (I raise down to A2s, but others won't go down that far)
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:14 AM
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Default Re: AA hand, call river lead?

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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($109.40)
Hero ($174)
Button ($139.25)
SB ($35)
BB ($156.90)
UTG ($41.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, UTG calls $8.

Turn: ($27.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($27.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $17</font>

Villain is 53/3/1.4 over 75 hands.

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Is the check standard on the turn? I'm thinking I would bet like $20 on the turn.
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:42 AM
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Default Re: AA hand, call river lead?

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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($109.40)
Hero ($174)
Button ($139.25)
SB ($35)
BB ($156.90)
UTG ($41.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, UTG calls $8.

Turn: ($27.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($27.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $17</font>

Villain is 53/3/1.4 over 75 hands.

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Is the check standard on the turn? I'm thinking I would bet like $20 on the turn.

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Well, it's opponent dependent of course, but you're looking at a standard way ahead/way behind situation. If you think you can you get 3 streets of value out of someone without a K, then sure, bet the turn.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:53 AM
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Default Re: AA hand, call river lead?

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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($109.40)
Hero ($174)
Button ($139.25)
SB ($35)
BB ($156.90)
UTG ($41.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, UTG calls $8.

Turn: ($27.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($27.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $17</font>

Villain is 53/3/1.4 over 75 hands.

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Is the check standard on the turn? I'm thinking I would bet like $20 on the turn.

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Well, it's opponent dependent of course, but you're looking at a standard way ahead/way behind situation. If you think you can you get 3 streets of value out of someone without a K, then sure, bet the turn.

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Well, the opponent is vpip 53 so I figure my standard here should be bet, bet, bet but I'm not really that confident about it.

If he was vpip between 15 and 30 and I knew nothing else about him then checking for pot control makes a lot of sense.
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