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Old 04-29-2007, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: I am losing 3bb/100 at 10NL!

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Picture the exact same flop, one guy has two high hearts, one has J9. Tell me you are not making bank. its rare you will get screwed over like that. Its much less rare someone would flop trips and you a boat.

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I realize that, but putting pressure on opponents is so critical to winning. By just limping here you're praying for the perfect flop and c/f when you miss (89% of the time). By raising you can limit the field to 1-2 opponents and take it down with a continuation bet 50% of the time.

HYPOTHETICAL

Limping in and catching a flop probably takes it down with a bet after hitting a set half the time (6.5% you win $3), you win a big pot maybe 1/3 time (4% you win $80), and you get sucked out on by a draw the rest of the times (2.5% you lose $80), the other 89% of the time you fold and lose $0.50.

But if you raise, and you get one caller, you take it down with a continuation bet 55% of the time for a pot of $7 (two limpers, plus your $3 raise and a call = profit of $4). The other 35% of the time you c-bet and lose and lose $7 (your raise + c-bet) But some of the time you actually hit a set and win a big pot, lets say $80 maybe 7.5% of the time, and you get outdrawn 2.5% of the time to lose $80.

I did the equity on notebook paper here and it comes up (with these numbers if my math is correct) to be about 3x more profitable to raise and isolate.

Yes some of the time you'll get more than one caller, or maybe UTG will limp-shove but those are the two most common situations (as you can see, people limping 95s aren't gonna call a raise usually)
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Old 04-29-2007, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: I am losing 3bb/100 at 10NL!

PJ, listen to this man. He's right (just not for this particular, exceptional table).
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Old 04-29-2007, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: I am losing 3bb/100 at 10NL!

Ah okay, I started typing that before I saw that everyone called preflop. Well, in that case, sure. Blah blah, I wasted my time on a post [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 04-29-2007, 04:49 PM
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Default Re: I am losing 3bb/100 at 10NL!

But people always call me preflop haha. none the less, i liked the post thac ty for taking the time
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Old 04-29-2007, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: I am losing 3bb/100 at 10NL!

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Fine fees:
Beat: My psych test is 400 multiple choice questions and will rape me.
Brag: A really sexy chick wrote on my wall she wants to study with me :-)

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brag: I take 2 finals both of which are ridiculous easy
brag: (month)



weeeeeeee

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Whats yur stats? Care to post?
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Old 04-29-2007, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: I am losing 3bb/100 at 10NL!

beat: back at 50nl
brag: i [censored] destroy all of you
beat: it's 50nl
brag: making more money than most 100nl regs
beat: 12-tabling
brag: i have discovered god mode and it is good
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Old 04-29-2007, 05:24 PM
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variance: ur drunk at 522?
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Old 04-29-2007, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: I am losing 3bb/100 at 10NL!

0evg0 I've seen you around these forums forever. Were you a donkament or a STD player? Why the switch?
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Old 04-29-2007, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: I am losing 3bb/100 at 10NL!

since bustoing my accounts by [censored] around at 5/10, 10/20, 15/30 LHE:

12-tabling -

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Old 04-29-2007, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: I am losing 3bb/100 at 10NL!

my last 25k hands at 50nl.

I AM YOUR GOD, AND YOU KNEEL BEFORE ME.



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0evg0 I've seen you around these forums forever. Were you a donkament or a STD player? Why the switch?

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i played donkaroos extensively, then played dng's for jaunary/february, then decided to learn how to play 6max cash in March because i decided i wanted to make money.
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