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#251
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Sorry tomahawk...you're wrong.
You are right, not everyone is a crazed murderer, etc. Except it's relatively uncommon for criminals to come into an OCCUPIED house, pull guns, and threaten peoples lives and rob them. The "normal" criminal hits an empty house and steals a few things. Once they come in and threaten to kill people in a full house, you are dealing with a different class of criminal. You have a criminal you don't know, pointing a gun at your friend. Personally I wouldn't even ask him to drop his gun, I'd just shoot him, so give the friend a little credit for trying to end the situation peacefully. Once the robber refuses, you shoot. You don't think about it, or talk about it with the robber. You shoot him. Once the guns are out you had better be willing to freaking use it. We have had a few home invasion robbers in my town and it isn't long until they murder someone, rape someone, injure someone, etc. So IMO, good riddance. Too bad he didn't kill the other one though. |
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#252
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Not killing the accomplice is +ev for meta game purposes.
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#253
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Another vote for the Just Shoot Him crowd. It's not like he's about to cross the line. He crossed the line when he decided to rob the place. Crossed it again when he came inside. Crossed it again when he pulled a gun. Crossed it again when he took a hostage. Put one between his eyes and the back of the accomplice's head. Imagine if it was your friend. What if it was your mother, sister... how about your 8 year old son or daughter that this guy has on the ground, gun to their temple?
It's stupid to think the situation is going to end peacefully. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. http://www.woai.com/news/local/story...bc1&rss=68 http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=6747441 http://www.nbc6.net/news/13272784/detail.html http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?sec...amp;id=1801496 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19355888/ |
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#254
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It's a hell of a thing, killin a man. You take all he's got, and all he's ever gonna have. [/ QUOTE ] Icwhatudidthere! goot quote |
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#255
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Jail! But wait USA laws lol...
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#256
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Robber two makes a run for it; but is chased down, severely beaten [/ QUOTE ] Real gangsta-ass [censored] don't run for [censored], cause real gangsta-ass [censored] can't run fast. |
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#257
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Ok, I don't post much, but coming from a totally different society, I just have to comment here. First of all, Wow that is one [censored] up situation. But I can't believe that this thread has gone this long without anyone even trying to have a little perspective. To all of you who think this was a necessary action by the shooter, I kinda agree once he finds himself in this situation, although it sounds like he could just wait for the guy to drop his gun. He's not gonna just shoot the guy on the floor and commit suicide, and it seems like he's just mouthing off before he drops the piece. But the more important issue here is that 90%+ of the posters seem to think that the world is filled with scumbags and rampant mad killers that you have to defend yourself from at all cost, without at all considering some of the reasons this might be true, and not for a second stopping to think if it is true at all. I don't really think that the world is filled with these evil crazy people to the extent that posters here seem to belive. I guess the [censored] up scandal and scaretactic newsstories here can be an explanation for that. Also, yes, there are some crazy people out there and you need to look out, but can you really not see the connection between the attitudes in this thread and why you have a society where situations like this occur? There are huge social differences. Noone gives two [censored] about anybody else, in fact people are SCARED SHITLESS of eachother. On top of this everyone has the right to get a gun or five to protect themself, which they obv do because of the fear. Almost noone statistically use these guns in self defence, because people are generally nice. But the media covers every single nasty break in or shooting nationwide and nothing else because it makes the most money for them, and people get more afraid. And then once a bad situation like this happens, not only does everyone have guns, they are super scared and wired up and the chances of someone getting killed skyrockets. And once something like this do happen and someone gets shot in the face, the media gets more fuel for the fear-fire that goes out nationwide again, and the spiral continues. Sorry if this was long and not so well written, but this is why I would think the guy would be more of a hero if he'd get the robber to drop his gun. Or even better if he would be brave enough to not have a gun and trust people not to be complete nutcases who murder people in cold blood. It might be a risk for him, but then he might not have to kill anybody. And he might also be a part of slowly making his country a little less crazy and fearful, and a little more trusting and human. [/ QUOTE ] Is this a (censored) joke? "Trusting and human"? This isn't some random encounter on the street and the question is, OMG, should I shoot him, he looks a bit suspect. I don't understand why you are suggesting that there is some sort of misunderstanding or misperception. He is being robbed at gunpoint and there is a hostage. Now is not the time for heartfelt sobs of brotherhood. So call me crazy, but "trusting and human" is NOT the correct read here. PS. LOL at trusting armed robber hostage takers. You must be one [censored] poker player. |
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#258
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Variance - Listening to Michael Jackson's 'Beat It' while reading this thread [/ QUOTE ] Variance: Me too. |
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#259
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it sounds like he could just wait for the guy to drop his gun. He's not gonna just shoot the guy on the floor and commit suicide, and it seems like he's just mouthing off before he drops the piece. [/ QUOTE ] Just like trusting that a fish uses logic when playing poker. Now I just read the entire thread, and no one's mentioned this. I guess you're all real gangsters and all I know is what I've seen in the movies, so could someone please enlighten me to the probability that this guy shoots the guy on the floor after getting shot in the head... like... an involuntary finger pull motion? Also, OP, did they find the robber's gun to be loaded/unloaded/real/fake? And more details on how he went about shooting the unarmed accomplice plz. |
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#260
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Really you guys who say you'd just shoot someone dead are insane, do you really want to live your life knowing you killed someone, to me that's the most hideous thing you could do other than rape or child molestation. Killing another human would be an impossibility for me. [/ QUOTE ] Please post your address so criminals can rob, rape and murder your entire family without fear of reprisal. |
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