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#251
01-03-2007, 10:54 PM
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Re: I own mike mautsow
TWP,
I often don't know how much I'm up/down in a session and when I'm sweating a friend I often have zero clue. If I were sweating g2, when he quit I'd probably say "ugh, how'd that turn out?" and if he said "eh, could have been worse, ended up up 10k" then I'd just accept that as true. So, the witnesses could tell the truth but still be wrong. 
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#252
01-03-2007, 10:56 PM
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Re: I own mike mautsow
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TWP, I often don't know how much I'm up/down in a session and when I'm sweating a friend I often have zero clue. If I were sweating g2, when he quit I'd probably say "ugh, how'd that turn out?" and if he said "eh, could have been worse, ended up up 10k" then I'd just accept that as true. So, the witnesses could tell the truth but still be wrong. [/ QUOTE ] and if they said "well he told me he was up 10K at the end of the session" that would not be convincing. if they said "we checked his BR at the start of the session to see if he had enough to sit at the 2/4 table. he had 200K. then at the end of the session, we checked the damage and were surprised to see that he was actually UP 10K." then that would be convincing. if they tell the truth, then we can obviously weigh the strength of their information. i have no reason to expect them not to tell the truth. and i believe that they could confirm the results of the session personally, not just from word-of-mouth.
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#253
01-03-2007, 11:01 PM
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Re: I own mike mautsow
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] TWP, I often don't know how much I'm up/down in a session and when I'm sweating a friend I often have zero clue. If I were sweating g2, when he quit I'd probably say "ugh, how'd that turn out?" and if he said "eh, could have been worse, ended up up 10k" then I'd just accept that as true. So, the witnesses could tell the truth but still be wrong. [/ QUOTE ] and if they said "well he told me he was up 10K at the end of the session" that would not be convincing. if they said "we checked his BR at the start of the session to see if he had enough to sit at the 2/4 table. he had 200K. then at the end of the session, we checked the damage and were surprised to see that he was actually UP 10K." then that would be convincing. if they tell the truth, then we can obviously weigh the strength of their information. i have no reason to expect them not to tell the truth. and i believe that they could confirm the results of the session personally, not just from word-of-mouth. [/ QUOTE ] The most that these guys would have seen by way of proof would be the same screenshot that you have in your PM box. While it's interesting and it's not easy to believe that the guy deposited to make it seem like he was doing better than he really was, we have INDEPENDANT data, the accuracy of which I personally don't doubt (but understand if you do) that shows something of this nature somewhere.
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#255
01-03-2007, 11:03 PM
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Re: I own mike mautsow
The PM does not show a screen shot. Not sure how it would possibly. It just has his word for what his BR was before and after the session. But they agree with the PT stats (which were unavailable to him at the time of the PM). The observers could confirm that the PM has accurate before and after BR numbers, which would resolve our bet.
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#256
01-03-2007, 11:06 PM
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Re: I own mike mautsow
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The PM does not show a screen shot. Not sure how it would possibly. It just has his word for what his BR was before and after the session. But they agree with the PT stats (which were unavailable to him at the time of the PM). The observers could confirm that the PM has accurate before and after BR numbers, which would resolve our bet. [/ QUOTE ] I see. Let's assume for a moment that highstakes' data is accurate. Are there any logical explainations that account for the missing 7 hands/10K in losses other than G2CU removed them? I'm sure there must be but my bias is preventing me from seeing them.
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#257
01-03-2007, 11:12 PM
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Re: I own mike mautsow
PT could easily not import 7 hands and those 7 hands can easily net -10K. But there is no way that the PM is wrong with before and after BR numbers other than g2cu lied. I dont think he could make such a precise mistake.
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#258
01-03-2007, 11:17 PM
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Re: I own mike mautsow
G2CU 'I made 10K'
Me : 'BS' You : 'No' Me: 'What's your proof?' You : 'He told me and a lot of others that he won 10K.' In hindsight, we should've appointed a jury for this in case we couldn't get congruent datamining stats.
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#259
01-03-2007, 11:19 PM
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Re: I own mike mautsow
Well my proof is not exactly that he told me and a lot of others that he won it. My proof is a screen shot showing 10K win plus a PM from before the screen shot was available stating starting and ending BR which are exactly as far apart as the PT screen shot. Plus others who can confirm WITH THEIR OWN EYES that he won 10K (these people have not been confirmed, but I believe they exist).
That is a lot more than 'he told people he won it'.
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