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Old 07-31-2006, 09:53 AM
Supwithbates Supwithbates is offline
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Default Re: WSOP Main Event Day 1C Sweat

How did Raymer go from being crippled with 6500 to being above average with 32k, and then all the way to 50k? There seems to be an information gap here. When I went to bed, 2 hours before the day's end, he was at 6k and I figured him to be eliminated.
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Old 07-31-2006, 10:14 AM
Gildwulf Gildwulf is offline
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Default Re: WSOP Main Event Day 1C Sweat

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It's such a shame for really great players to get all their money in against idiots as a 70/30 fav for a huge pot and be sent home...

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Great players shouldn't make a habit of putting their tournament life at risk when a 70/30 favorite. They won't survive very long.

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lolololololololol
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Old 07-31-2006, 10:16 AM
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Day 1C has come to an end. 867 Players left.
Official chip counts will be made available later

Top chip counts
1 Adam Jones 123,000
2 William Thorsson 115,000
3 Brendan Lewis 112,000
4 Dario Minieri 103,000
5 Richard Gryko 100,000
6 Per Sjogren 98,000
6 Daniel Pelletier 98,000
8 Charlie Sewell 95,700
9 Shannon Shorr 95,000
9 Mike Petrillo 95,000

Notables:
14 Daniel Negreanu 78,500
25 Paul Sexton 63,000
35 Greg Raymer 48,900
36 Nam Le 48,000
49 Josh Arieh 35,000
56 Tom McEvoy 32,000
58 John Gale 30,000
75 Mark Gregorich 18,500
82 Aaron Kanter 16,000

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isn't brenden lewis cardsharpcook? or am I remembering his name wrong?
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Old 07-31-2006, 10:35 AM
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I still want to know where the 50% came from

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Chance of being eliminated: .30 + (.7 * .3) = .51

In back to back 70/30 situations, you'll be eliminated 30% the first time. In the 70% of the times survive, you'll be eliminated 30% of the time (.7 *.3). So, in two back to back 70/30 hands, you are likely to be knocked out of the tournament.

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So flipping coins head/tails 50/50 two times...

head=.5+(.5*.5)=0.75
tails=.5+(.5*.5)=.75

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0.75 is the probability that you will *not* get heads twice, not the probability that you *will*.

HTH.
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Old 07-31-2006, 10:42 AM
DrewDevil DrewDevil is offline
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Oh please, garden variety bad beats are a dime a dozen.

Now, at my table we got shorty all in with QQ and "villain" with 88. Flop, Q44, villain congratulates shorty on a nice hand. I make the mistake of pointing out that "villain" could still runner-runner quads.

You do the math...

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Being all-in PF --> not a bad beat, just a funny way to lose an 80/20 match-up.

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So according to you, it is not a bad beat to be an 80/20 favorite when the money goes in, then a 99/1 favorite after the flop, and lose?

What exactly would qualify as a bad beat in your world? And what color is the sky there?
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Old 07-31-2006, 10:44 AM
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A familiar face was seated next to Harman today:



The guy who slowrolled her with the straight flush to cripple her last year.

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Also he isnt just some guy, Cory Zeidmen (sp) he will be on High stakes poker next episode.
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Old 07-31-2006, 10:49 AM
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Default Re: WSOP Main Event Day 1C Sweat

How is it possible this cardplayer tidbit is not in this thread?

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Ship It...Again
Alan Sass just took down a pot pre-flop with a raise. The table has been folding to most of Sass's raises the last 2 hours.

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Seems the Ship It Holla crew made an impression. (Cardplayer has Usher at 32,500 at the end of the day.)
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Old 07-31-2006, 10:51 AM
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Default Re: WSOP Main Event Day 1C Sweat

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Oh please, garden variety bad beats are a dime a dozen.

Now, at my table we got shorty all in with QQ and "villain" with 88. Flop, Q44, villain congratulates shorty on a nice hand. I make the mistake of pointing out that "villain" could still runner-runner quads.

You do the math...

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Being all-in PF --> not a bad beat, just a funny way to lose an 80/20 match-up.

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So according to you, it is not a bad beat to be an 80/20 favorite when the money goes in, then a 99/1 favorite after the flop, and lose?

What exactly would qualify as a bad beat in your world? And what color is the sky there?

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Psychologically, a bad beat, sure. As in QQ guy saw the flop and said, 'aw, hells yeah!'
But technically, still just a standard above average 80/20 beat, considering that's where the money went in.
There are comments about this every day, how can you have almost 1000 posts and not know this.

P.S. That 'what color is the sky' stuff is lame.
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Old 07-31-2006, 10:52 AM
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Day 1C has come to an end. 867 Players left.
Official chip counts will be made available later

Top chip counts
1 Adam Jones 123,000
2 William Thorsson 115,000
3 Brendan Lewis 112,000
4 Dario Minieri 103,000
5 Richard Gryko 100,000
6 Per Sjogren 98,000
6 Daniel Pelletier 98,000
8 Charlie Sewell 95,700
9 Shannon Shorr 95,000
9 Mike Petrillo 95,000

Notables:
14 Daniel Negreanu 78,500
25 Paul Sexton 63,000
35 Greg Raymer 48,900
36 Nam Le 48,000
49 Josh Arieh 35,000
56 Tom McEvoy 32,000
58 John Gale 30,000
75 Mark Gregorich 18,500
82 Aaron Kanter 16,000

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isn't brenden lewis cardsharpcook? or am I remembering his name wrong?

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CardSharpCook is Brendan Taylor
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Old 07-31-2006, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: WSOP Main Event Day 1C Sweat

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It's such a shame for really great players to get all their money in against idiots as a 70/30 fav for a huge pot and be sent home...

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Great players shouldn't make a habit of putting their tournament life at risk when a 70/30 favorite. They won't survive very long.

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lolololololololol

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Its true, thats why Dutch Boyd said you don't want to be all in in a tournament. Your looking to build chips so that losing coinflips and 70/30's won't hurt you.
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