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#241
10-20-2006, 07:54 PM
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Re: *Official* Suggestions for Stars Thread
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I am very disappointed that Stars is headed in the same direction. [/ QUOTE ] Is that not a premature conclusion? Some bonus given to someone does not make a direction. And even if it was a bad thing, Stars has proven time and again that they learn from mistakes and quickly. 
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#242
10-20-2006, 08:01 PM
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Re: *Official* Suggestions for Stars Thread
Big Edit: I'm now reading in the bonus section that this bonus is PLAYER SPECIFIC.
SO MUCH FOR BEING A GOD DAMNED SUPERNOVA. I GUESS THE PERK IS THAT YOU DON'T GET TO QUALIFY FOR THE GOOD BONUSES? Ryan
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#244
10-20-2006, 08:08 PM
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Re: *Official* Suggestions for Stars Thread
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[ QUOTE ] I am very disappointed that Stars is headed in the same direction. [/ QUOTE ] Is that not a premature conclusion? Some bonus given to someone does not make a direction. And even if it was a bad thing, Stars has proven time and again that they learn from mistakes and quickly. [/ QUOTE ] I am very disappointed that Stars is heading in the same direction. this account specific bonus is one example, the cheap points for cash scheme is another. monopoly is never good for any industry. i miss Party already[img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
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#245
10-20-2006, 08:09 PM
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Re: *Official* Suggestions for Stars Thread
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Lee, one more change that could be a quick but very helpful fix. Default NL buy-in is the table max. NL100(.50/1) and higher...minimum buy-in is 50BB [/ QUOTE ] Lee, thanks for the FPP changes. Mucho Appreciato. The thing with NL minimum buy-ins though, I have never understood. Why do you allow such a low minimum bb buy-in? It really changes the way you have to play NL when you have 4 normal stacks and 2 shorties at a 6-max table. It's so annoying. Yeah, you can change up your game and still be profitable, but it shouldn't have to be that way. Shorties can move down a level or two and buy in for full at a lower level. --100bb as the default --change min buy-in to 50, 60 or 80 bb's. Preferrably on the high end. --aj
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#246
10-20-2006, 08:31 PM
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Re: *Official* Suggestions for Stars Thread
The $1000 bonus seems like a scam to trick low limit players into rejoining the site. It's a 15x playthrough with a limited clearance time, so I suspect a lot of players who haven't been at Stars in awhile will come back for this bonus and many will find that they won't be able to clear the bonus. As far as I can tell, hardly any, if any supernova and platinum high limit players have received this bonus.
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#247
10-20-2006, 08:34 PM
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Re: *Official* Suggestions for Stars Thread
It's nice to see that you've added a bonus FPP when the rake reaches $2. So, if I have this correct, for NL400 6-max players, there is no change for pots of 0-$39.99 or $60+, but pots that are $40-$59.99 now receive double FPPs? Anyone have a clue on how this will change the % of MGR we get back? I'll mess around with PT and see if I can figure anything out.
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#248
10-20-2006, 08:44 PM
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Re: *Official* Suggestions for Stars Thread
OK, I did a quick study on possible changes the new FPP rule will have. Today I played 926 hands and of those 926, 213 had a rake of $2 or more. Of the 213 with a higher rake, 96 were raked $3. That leaves 117 hands out of 926 that were raked between $2 and $2.95. So it looks like out of every 1,000 hands we play that there will be about 125-130 bonus base FPPs under this new structure that we would not have received under the old structure.
Under the old structure, I would estimate I received about 1850 FPPs for every 1k hands at NL400 6-max. This is after my supernova 3.5x multiplier is applied. Under the new rules, that number should increase to about 2285 FPPs, which is an increase of about 23.5%. Now, I worked the rakeback % under the old structure out to about 14% for novas at NL400 6m and it is now about 17.3% RB. A nice increase, but I would still like to see novas getting about 22-25% RB, especially when you can get 27% at Full Tilt, and they have slightly better games, IMO.
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#249
10-20-2006, 08:56 PM
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Re: *Official* Suggestions for Stars Thread
You need to consider that this may be largely dependant on how often you play 5-handed on a 6-max table.
On the 6-max limit tables, the max-rake when there are only 5 players is $2. Also - I'm assuming that Lee actually means it is an extra VPP at $2. Not an extra FPP. In other words, if I'm supernova and the pot is $2 on a 6-max table then I get 2 VPP's for the hand and 7 FPP's. If it's only an extra FPP as Lee stated then it would only be 4.5FPP's on such a hand instead of 3.5FPP's. This is assuming that my understanding of the distinction between VPP's and FPP's is correct...which it very well may not be. Other than that little semantic nit-pick, thanks for the FPP improvements Lee. I think this will be a bit fairer to 6-max players. definitely should close the gap somewhat and should also help in my drive to make it to Supernova by the end of the year!!!
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#250
10-20-2006, 09:08 PM
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Re: *Official* Suggestions for Stars Thread
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You need to consider that this may be largely dependant on how often you play 5-handed on a 6-max table. On the 6-max limit tables, the max-rake when there are only 5 players is $2. Also - I'm assuming that Lee actually means it is an extra VPP at $2. Not an extra FPP. In other words, if I'm supernova and the pot is $2 on a 6-max table then I get 2 VPP's for the hand and 7 FPP's. If it's only an extra FPP as Lee stated then it would only be 4.5FPP's on such a hand instead of 3.5FPP's. This is assuming that my understanding of the distinction between VPP's and FPP's is correct...which it very well may not be. Other than that little semantic nit-pick, thanks for the FPP improvements Lee. I think this will be a bit fairer to 6-max players. definitely should close the gap somewhat and should also help in my drive to make it to Supernova by the end of the year!!! [/ QUOTE ] Bob, I believe the way I originally calculated it would be correct based on the current wording on Stars web site: 1. Earn FPPs for cash game play One (1) Frequent Player Point (FPP) is awarded for playing a hand in which the rake reaches: * $0.40 for fixed limit poker games with stakes $0.50/$1.00 and lower * $0.75 for fixed limit poker games with stakes $1/$2 * $1.00 for o pot limit poker games o no limit poker games o fixed limit poker games with stakes $2/$4 and higher Note: If the rake reaches $3, then each player dealt into the hand receives a second FPP, and when the rake reaches $5 each player receives a third FPP. We can assume that it will be changed to say when the rake reaches $2 the hand receives a 2nd FPP. Thus, I assume these are all base FPP we are talking about here, so if the rake is $1, you get 1 FPP and 3.5 FPP if you are supernova and if the rake is $2, you will get 2 base FPP and now 7 FPP if you are supernova. And yes, this is very dependent on playing 5-handed on a 6-max table b/c if you are under 6 the max rake taken is $2 so even if you are playing NL and the pot is $1000 you would still have only earned 1 FPP under the old system, but it is now 2, and that's a nice improvement.
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