aba caught bluffing against bobby baldwin in 1.8mil pot

[Mitch Evans]

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Is there a max buy-in for these games?

Anyone else notice that Brian said he was so tilted he had to have the floor manager collect his chips, implying he had chips left?

Does that mean he lost 900k in this hand AND had chips left over?

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Max buyins were implemented by online sites to protect fish (keep rake going for site) and to minimize the effects of collusion. Before the net, there were no such thoughts of max buyins. After all, it's a no limit game- bet the farm. Ergo, real no limit games are, well... no limit.

[samsdmf]

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All,

Maybe Brian is out of his league against these players in live games this big. Or maybe Brian has just gotten unlucky the last couple of sessions. It will take a lot more play on Brian's part to see how he really stacks up against the highest stakes players in the world. I am far from an aba fanboy, but it's imo pretty badass that he's willing to step up to the plate and give it a shot at these insane stakes.

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Please make a bad post sometime in the next year please

In games this laggy what would a reasonable sample size be to determine a semi accurate winrate- it seems pretty feasible to me that you could play everyday for months and be up even if you were a losing player

[jah7_fsu1]

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Brain is obviously a brilliant young player. I doubt he can beat Bobby's Room. Sure doesn't look like it.

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Based on the numerous hands they have played against each other Johnny if Brian had won the 1.8 million dollar pot could we then conclude that it sure doesn't look like Bobby can beat Brian?

[[Phill]]

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Looks like you prepubescent toadies and nerds will have to find another poker sage to emulate as the second coming of Jesus. Muhahahahahaha. Arent you glad that you dropped out of college and you have all this income potential to look forward to in the years ahead as a dead beat loser with the social skills of an avocado.

Why do you think Townsend wasnt invited to participate in the last season of High Stakes Poker? It had nothing to do with his poker ability and everything to do with his social skills for Television Entertainment. ie. HE HAS NONE.

Well its back to Full Tilt Poker for you children to waste your time making moronic comments in the High Stakes Rooms.

Enjoy! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

DFSPON

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Social skills does not equate to entertainment on TV.

Im sure Brian could be the nicest guy in the world and it wouldnt change him not being invited back (note, im not sure this is right or wrong, havent looked at the HSP lineup yet so havent fact checked).

I DO know that Gold was invited back. Someone who many round here think has zero social skills.

Im also pretty sure Matusow will have been invited back. Now THERE is a guy lacking social skills.

I think sir, what you need, is to go look up the term "social skills".

I didnt really want to come into this thread. IMO the hand in question means nothing. He lost one hand, well that just goes to prove he is a bad player? Also, its live poker, they might have logged at most 100 hours and covered 3500 hands. As if you can come even remotely close to figuring if Brian is a winner or not based on such a huge sample size. Not to mention that unless he has updated his blog today with a full results figure, he so far hasnt come close to giving a full rundown of profit/loss.

Let me put it this way, if Phil Ivey had a blog, i wouldnt be shocked if he had a few entries where BB caught him bluffing into a big pot.

[blah_blah]

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Since the thread started, the gentleman has posted again. He bluffed off his chips to Bobby Baldwin again. Since he was tilted, he is not sure but thinks he lost another 800K.

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are you incapable of reading the op correctly? please feel free to respond to this with a three paragraph post of how things were in the old days without actually answering the above question.

[Topset72]

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Looks like you prepubescent toadies and nerds will have to find another poker sage to emulate as the second coming of Jesus. Muhahahahahaha.

Well its back to Full Tilt Poker for you children to waste your time making moronic comments in the High Stakes Rooms.

Enjoy! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

DFSPON

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Why do you keep posting in an authoritative manner. Especially after this post:
"Lets look at the three types of Historical Money Management for Poker Players. In the 1970's and 1980's, there were three Poker Prodegies. You had Chip Reese, Bobby Baldwin, and Stu Unger. All were talented and had plenty of gambling heart.

Chip Reese has remained a level headed gambler his entire life. He doesnt gamble for the sake of gambling only. He loves the challenge but will not take the short side of a bet just for the action alone. He may be hustled short term and lose but wont continue. He has been considered one of the all time winners. We dont know what his Bankroll is but it is likely substantial. He is extremely disciplined and doesnt do drugs or have other unhealthy habits.

Then you have Bobby Baldwin. I suspect he was like Chip Reese in his early days but moved on to the business side of things eventually. You can be certain as CEO of the Bellagio, he is extremely wealthy with huge stock options, a vast investment portfolio, and this 1k 2K is well within his means to put it simply. He is also extremely disciplined, doesnt do drugs, and has no unhealthy habits."

It has long been rumored Bobby Baldwin was Steve Wynn's coke dealer. I am sure he wasn't doing any drugs.
http://tinyurl.com/3an2kw

"Bobby Baldwin in 1986

Bobby Baldwin put all his wife's jewelry up as collateral at the T-bird (or Thunderbird) Jewelry Store to a loan shark named Mr. Cohen. Bobby was a degenerate gambler. He lost millions of dollars to his sports bookmakers in Oklahoma.

This was when Bobby was at the Golden Nugget. Bobby never picked up his wife's jewelry and he owed theguy some interest on the loan. Bobby got Cohen a jewelry store concession at the Mirage and Cohen made a bunch of money. Steve Wynn found out about it and kicked Cohen out."

"After the Sheppard's girlfriend leaked the info about the scam out, all the top people knew about it; Steve Wynn, Bobby Baldwin, and Mark Shore. The management team called in the gaming commission. The commission serveilled the pit for 30 days then busted Sheppard and Katy.

After the bust I went to Harry Bruder, a close friend of Bobby Baldwin's, who was a drug dealer from NY. I was buying cocaine from Harry at the time. I said to Harry, "Listen, I need some help. The word is out about the marker scam and I'm afraid I'll get in trouble." I had
a bunch of money saved and didn't want to risk anything.

Harry Bruder set up a meeting in Bobby Baldwin's office. He said knew someone on the Gaming Commission that was crooked. He said if I paid him $50,000, they'd get me out of this. He promised me I'd never go to court, I'd never be bothered for the money and I'd never be barred from any poker room that Steve Winn, Eric Drache or Bobby Baldwin ran. He also gave me written immunity."

Chip Reese was an associate of Tony Spilatro(Joe Pesci in Casino) in the early 80's -that is very balanced and unhealty. Chip was also known to have a serious coke habit in the early 80's.

He would probably laugh in your face if you told him he never did drugs and is completely healthy and balanced.

I couldn't find the info on the web, but I think it might be in the book "Gambling Wizards" where either Chip or one of his early partners talks about their coked up craziness.

Topset72

[EWS87]

nvg needs more posts like the one topset just made

[892King]

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[Mark Vos]

I am happy to agree that sbrugby is the most technically correct nl player in the world, the most profitable nl player in the world, and the best online nl player in the world.

However, is it not possible that live a couple, if not a decent number of players, have a reasonable edge over him? And certainly a number will have edge over him in live plo. I have nothing but respect for him and know I'll never be half the player he is, but, I played with him live and I think he missed some things. Even with the perfect randomization and amazing poker logic based reads I feel he gives up a substantial amount to live players who observe and pick up a 3rd dimension of information that sb is yet to, or perhaps never will, be able to obtain.

[luckyjimm]

Good post, Mark - and it wasn't even in a thread about yourself!