The Worst Strategy You've Overheard at a Table - Page 24

Assani Fisher · #**231** 05-09-2007, 01:51 AM

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May as well throw this one in here: I was playing at the Beau Rivage in Biloxi. Seated across from me is a mid-60's redheaded lady who says she deals at the Imperial Palace. She says that the auto-shufflers lead to low cards on the flop, where when she manually shuffles over at the IP, there tend to be more high cards on the flop.

Despite the temptation, I go to my default strategy and nod and agree. In retrospect, I should have worked out some elaborate prop bet on future flops and cleaned her out. Damn hindsight.

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After they put the auto shuffler in at the Taj I heard someone claim that they were rigged to produce more action hands to get a higher rake.

Assani Fisher · #**232** 05-09-2007, 01:56 AM

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at the 10k borgata event, a kid told me he regularly folds KK preflop when tightish players 3 bet him

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I think this is perfectly fine advice, although obviously other factors like stack size come into play.

DMC0627 · #**233** 05-09-2007, 02:02 AM

Annoying joke from two drunk guys who must have come together - every time, and I mean EVERY time, one would check, the other would say, I don't take checks, and the reply would be, the check is in the mail - then they would both throw their heads back and laugh hyterically - this went on for about an hour, and I had to request a table change

Assani Fisher · #**234** 05-09-2007, 02:26 AM

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This isn't really strategy but I had to at least put it out there. I bet out on a board where I have the near nuts...guys says "You haven't played a hand in like an hour so you're probably bluffing." ...and he calls. Brilliant reasoning.

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I've heard this same thing except its "You havn't played a hand in so long...I'll give you some action" as he calls my river bet when I have the nuts.

Assani Fisher · #**235** 05-09-2007, 03:00 AM

The strangest thing I"ve ever seen at a poker table:

$1/2 NL game at the Taj. Woman to my immediate left and man on the other side of the table get into a small argument over something stupid one hand. Very next hand they are heads up to see the flop. Both of them are decent stacks too- probably around $400 each. Flop comes A-x-x. Woman bets out somewhere around $20(pot was raised preflop so it was about a pot sized bet), guy raises to $60.

The woman sits there and thinks it over and then says out loud "let me get a read on you" and turns over her hand to expose A-T. After about 20 seconds she re raises to $160, the guy goes all in(which btw is horrible strategy since he has position and could just call and make sure that his hand doesn't get sucked out on before going all in). The lady says "I don't believe you" and calls. Guy shows AK which holds up.

myxomatosized · #**236** 05-09-2007, 03:42 AM

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Tourney in Sarasota, 120 runners and I'm at a table of geniuses...I look down at two black aces, and push all in after 5 limpers, I get immediatly called by UTG, who tables 10-7o...Board no help, I double up and he's crippled. He says"Knew you had the Aces" I ask "So why did you call?" He replies:Because 10-7off is the best hand against aces" To which I state "No, actually, it's more like 7-8 suited" Genius then says "Nope, It's 10-7 it wins 55% of the time against aces. I ran it through my odd calculator TEN times!"
So I say"Wow! Thats quite a sample size" and he says "Hey, you really only need to do it 10 times, everything after that is just repating the past results!"

I hope he isn't doing my taxes this year.

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Even ignoring his obvious stupidity, how exactly can something win 55% of the time on 10 trials?

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5 wins and one chop?

melzino · #**237** 05-09-2007, 06:04 AM

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The strangest thing I"ve ever seen at a poker table:

$1/2 NL game at the Taj. Woman to my immediate left and man on the other side of the table get into a small argument over something stupid one hand. Very next hand they are heads up to see the flop. Both of them are decent stacks too- probably around $400 each. Flop comes A-x-x. Woman bets out somewhere around $20(pot was raised preflop so it was about a pot sized bet), guy raises to $60.

The woman sits there and thinks it over and then says out loud "let me get a read on you" and turns over her hand to expose A-T. After about 20 seconds she re raises to $160, the guy goes all in(which btw is horrible strategy since he has position and could just call and make sure that his hand doesn't get sucked out on before going all in). The lady says "I don't believe you" and calls. Guy shows AK which holds up.

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I am not convinced that the optimal strategy would be calling and going all-in on the river if lady doesn't improve. I didn't see anything bad with going all-in on the turn. Comments anyone?

Ghazban · #**238** 05-09-2007, 06:35 AM

I've told this one on multiple occasions but it's appropriate for this thread:

1/2 NL game. There's a raise and some callers. Flop come Q62r genius bets, bunch of people fold, some dude checkraises all-in for a little over the pot. Genius calls. The all-in guy flips over his cards to show AQo. Genius says "I knew it! That's what I put you on!" and shows 88. I'm next to genius so I ask him "If that's what you put him on, why did you call?" His reply:

"Sometimes, you gotta mix it up"

Assani Fisher · #**239** 05-09-2007, 07:17 AM

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The strangest thing I"ve ever seen at a poker table:

$1/2 NL game at the Taj. Woman to my immediate left and man on the other side of the table get into a small argument over something stupid one hand. Very next hand they are heads up to see the flop. Both of them are decent stacks too- probably around $400 each. Flop comes A-x-x. Woman bets out somewhere around $20(pot was raised preflop so it was about a pot sized bet), guy raises to $60.

The woman sits there and thinks it over and then says out loud "let me get a read on you" and turns over her hand to expose A-T. After about 20 seconds she re raises to $160, the guy goes all in(which btw is horrible strategy since he has position and could just call and make sure that his hand doesn't get sucked out on before going all in). The lady says "I don't believe you" and calls. Guy shows AK which holds up.

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I am not convinced that the optimal strategy would be calling and going all-in on the river if lady doesn't improve. I didn't see anything bad with going all-in on the turn. Comments anyone?

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Obviously it depends what she does on the turn. However I think that calling is clearly a better play than raising all in on the flop since its painfully obvious that the woman intends to call all in on this hand no matter what.

northkent · #**240** 05-09-2007, 09:44 AM

1-2 NL...Super aggro player bets all in (approx $120 into a $40 pot)on the turn with Ace high and gets called by super donk with K high. Caller says..."I only called because I knew he didn't have anything."

River blanked and super donk went home. The table got a chuckle out of that one.